With McNeill playing like that, what happens to Oben?

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LittleTrain

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Does he come back and just backup both tackle spots? I don't see them benching McNeill now that he's in there and starting. I don't see Oben beating out Olivea. That's going to be a pretty decent backup LT from the way it looks right now.
 

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LittleTrain said:
Does he come back and just backup both tackle spots? I don't see them benching McNeill now that he's in there and starting. I don't see Oben beating out Olivea. That's going to be a pretty decent backup LT from the way it looks right now.
It's a long season and McNeill (much like Rivers) didn't have to do much last night. We'll get a much better feel for how good the kid is when he has to pass protect more than a dozen times in a game against a real NFL calliber DE.
 

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We have 5 weeks to figure it out

I say lets wait and see how he does against NFL defenses (baltimore and Pitt in a few weeks)
 

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While I understand some of the trepidation I am hearing, as the adopted father of the future ProBowl left tackle for the San Diego Super Chargers, I feel obligated to stress his extreme "stud-dom". Id be surprised if Marcus allowed more than 3 sacks all year long.... and those would probably be considered "coverage sacks", or come as a result of "cheating"! In fact, he may just pitch a shut out!

When Oben comes back, he should be placed at RT, and Olivea should slide inside to RG..... then nothing will stop LT from obtaining 2000 yards rushing.

EDIT....

and oh yeah, AJ is a genius.
 

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glutton4Bolts said:
While I understand some of the trepidation I am hearing, as the adopted father of the future ProBowl left tackle for the San Diego Super Chargers, I feel obligated to stress his extreme "stud-dom". Id be surprised if Marcus allowed more than 3 sacks all year long.... and those would probably be considered "coverage sacks", or come as a result of "cheating"! In fact, he may just pitch a shut out!

When Oben comes back, he should be placed at RT, and Olivea should slide inside to RG..... then nothing will stop LT from obtaining 2000 yards rushing.
I can go with that. Put Oben at RT until we can find another tackle in the draft that has McNeill's size and wingspan. However, I think Lekkerkerker can be that RT for us in the future.
 

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I can go with that. Put Oben at RT until we can find another tackle in the draft that has McNeill's size and wingspan. However, I think Lekkerkerker can be that RT for us in the future.
I agree about drafting another stud OT in the draft next year. We need a future bookend opposite the 747 that is McNeill. I forsee a saftey in round one and a roadgrading RT in round two next year.

About Lek.... jury is still out.... but we should know a lot more by midseason.
 

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glutton4Bolts said:
I agree about drafting another stud OT in the draft next year. We need a future bookend opposite the 747 that is McNeill. I forsee a saftey in round one and a roadgrading RT in round two next year.

About Lek.... jury is still out.... but we should know a lot more by midseason.
Lekkerkerker has the size and long wingspan, like McNeill.

What he is lacking right now is the mobility, training, and conditioning. He needs to improve on his footwork in space, especially blocking at the second level, and his overall conditioning as he appears at times to be lumbering around.

If Cory can improve his footwork and conditioning he'll be a great RT for us.

However, I foresee a time when Oben won't be with us, so draft another huge tackle with long arms and have him and Lekkerkerker battle it out for the RT spot. The "loser" becomes the backup.
 
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glutton4Bolts

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WonderSlug said:
Lekkerkerker has the size and long wingspan, like McNeill.

What he is lacking right now is the mobility, training, and conditioning. He needs to improve on his footwork in space, especially blocking at the second level, and his overall conditioning as he appears at times to be lumbering around.

If Cory can improve his footwork and conditioning he'll be a great RT for us.

However, I foresee a time when Oben won't be with us, so draft another huge tackle with long arms and have him and Lekkerkerker battle it out for the RT spot. The "loser" becomes the backup.
Genius line of thinking... are you and AJ related?
 
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Olivea may not have McNeill's measurables, but he's very underrated by you guys. I don't think he's going to be moved anywhere.
 

LittleTrain

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Yeah Olivea isn't going anywhere...not to mention the Charger coaches seem to be very happy with the OGs. Heck, Hardwick probably graded out the lowest last night.

Working on the assumption that McNeill keeps up this level of play, Oben is going to be one hell of a veteran backup.
 

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boltssbbound said:
Olivea may not have McNeill's measurables, but he's very underrated by you guys. I don't think he's going to be moved anywhere.
I dont think I underestimate Olivea.... In fact, I value guard play very much in this game.... I think they are the key to running effectively.... and I believe Olivea's athleticism and toughness makes him a prime candidate for a probowl RG/LG.... the fact that he can play a quality RT demonstrates his versitility thereby increasing my admiration of him. In short, I think Olivea is a stud.... and AJ's genius is demonstrated once again through his play for the Bolts!
 

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I'm more concerned with goff. He's okay. But I saw him struggling a bit last night. That to me is the final hole to get filled for the years ahead. And possibly finding one more good o-tackle for backup if the guys we have now can't handle it.
 

LittleTrain

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No way Goff is getting benched this year. Or Dielman. Moving Olivea isn't happening anytime soon.
 

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foober said:
I'm more concerned with goff. He's okay. But I saw him struggling a bit last night. That to me is the final hole to get filled for the years ahead. And possibly finding one more good o-tackle for backup if the guys we have now can't handle it.
Goff is the best pass blocker we've got.

He is also the leader of the line. He is extremely important.
 

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LittleTrain said:
Yeah Olivea isn't going anywhere...not to mention the Charger coaches seem to be very happy with the OGs. Heck, Hardwick probably graded out the lowest last night.

Working on the assumption that McNeill keeps up this level of play, Oben is going to be one hell of a veteran backup.
Let's just hope that he makes it back. I'm not sure that he'll be playing at all this year.
 

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Ride The Lightning said:
Goff is the best pass blocker we've got.

He is also the leader of the line. He is extremely important.
WTG.... Defend your boy! I like Goff as well. As a matter of fact, I think our OL is really gonna step up this year. We had roughly 200 yards rushing in the first game with the Turds regularly stacking 9 men in the box. Noice!