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Who's the best in the AFC?

MasterOfPuppets

Charger fan since 1979
#1
from ESPN : 5 Burning questions

5. Who's the favorite now in the AFC?

Allen: The San Diego Chargers are the best team in the AFC. They would be undefeated if it weren't for some poor coaching decisions in their loss to the Ravens. There aren't many weaknesses on this team. The one weakness teams thought they could exploit at the beginning of the season was quarterback Philip Rivers, but he has turned into a strength. This team is playing excellent, aggressive football and can play any style. If a team wants to try to get into an offensive shootout, the Chargers can oblige, and if an opposing team wants to play a smashmouth game with a lot of running, the Chargers can do that, too. But what separates them from the other teams in the AFC is their defense led by "Lights Out" Shawne Merriman. This defense has played great this season and is one of the best in the league.

Hoge: I've been saying it for weeks and my answer is the same -- the San Diego Chargers. With their abilities they are as good as any team in football. They have the best young quarterback (Rivers), best tight end (Antonio Gates) and best running back (LaDainian Tomlinson). Rivers is making throws that no quarterback would even think of making. I'd put them as the best team in football even ahead of the Bears.

Salisbury: The Chargers are the best team in the AFC right now, and I'll tell you why. They are being led by a young quarterback (Rivers) who is not playing as though he's getting his first starts this season but instead is playing as though he's a 10-year veteran. When he drops back to throw the ball, he drops with confidence, and he's backing it up with the correct throws and check downs. There were some who thought it was a mistake for the Chargers to jettison Drew Brees in the offseason in favor of an unproven commodity, but Rivers has proved the Chargers correct. He's utilizing every piece of talent on the field and looks great. He's the reason the Chargers are the No. 1 team in the AFC.

Schlereth: It's hard to argue with the San Diego Chargers. They are stout defensively and while they haven't played great teams, they've handled their business. There is no other team in the AFC that can handle them. They are better offensively than the Broncos and I'm not thoroughly impressed with the Colts.

Theismann: The Indianapolis Colts are still the favorite in the AFC. They are undefeated and are winning games in different ways. Gone is the team that was soft and could win only in blowouts and in domes, and it has been replaced by a team that can win a smashmouth game late. The credit for that goes to Peyton Manning and offensive coordinator Tom Moore, who have responded extremely well to the departure of former running back Edgerrin James. Instead of trying to do the exact same thing they did in the past, Moore and Manning have changed up their game plans and made the team more deliberate, and we're seeing the results in the record.
4 out of 5 ain't bad :tup:
 

bigcarson50

Well-Known Member
#2
After reading Hoge's thoughts... wow

Let's keep it up and hope that Marty never reverts to run run run (unless of course other D's start fearing Rivers and play full with 5 DB's full time :lol:
 

AnteaterRaider

Carpe Diem et omni Mundio
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#4
bigcarson50 said:
After reading Hoge's thoughts... wow

Let's keep it up and hope that Marty never reverts to run run run (unless of course other D's start fearing Rivers and play full with 5 DB's full time :lol:
and it wasn't salisbury who thought we weren't the best
 

boltssbbound

Well-Known Member
#5
Theezeman is a joke. Not because he didn't pick the Bolts, but because his logic is so flawed.

The only thing that's changed with the Colts is that they are not as good as last year, when they also couldn't get it done. The Colts can't run and can't stop the run. The only way they win games is on the strength of Manning's arm. They are not a championship team.
 
#6
boltssbbound said:
Theezeman is a joke. Not because he didn't pick the Bolts, but because his logic is so flawed.

The only thing that's changed with the Colts is that they are not as good as last year, when they also couldn't get it done. The Colts can't run and can't stop the run. The only way they win games is on the strength of Manning's arm. They are not a championship team.
The Colts are actually in the middle of the pack rushing. That said, you are right about not being able to stop the run.

Also, Denver has not impressed me this year. Offensively, they have issues. Cincinnati and Baltimore have issues.

Though, IF there is one team in the AFC that worries me right now, it's New England. They know when to show when the spotlights are aglow.
 

boltssbbound

Well-Known Member
#8
SDC-IL said:
The Colts are actually in the middle of the pack rushing. That said, you are right about not being able to stop the run.

Also, Denver has not impressed me this year. Offensively, they have issues. Cincinnati and Baltimore have issues.

Though, IF there is one team in the AFC that worries me right now, it's New England. They know when to show when the spotlights are aglow.
Teams are not keying on the Colts run game at all. They are focused on Manning. If the Colts cannot be better than the middle of the pack in rushing, then they can't run.

The Colts are averaging only 3.8 yards per carry and are one of only three teams with 0 runs of 20+ yards.
 
#11
Theismann should look closer at Indy. The Titans almost whacked them and every team that has played them, has run for big yards. It looks like there is some wishful thinking that the Dolts are the next SB winners. Not!
 

ntman68

Well-Known Member
#14
boltssbbound said:
What did he do against our secondary last year, with better weapons around him?
I hear you, but I believe our victory over the Colts last year was a perfect storm (no pun intended). I won't diminish the accomplishment, but I think that if we played that game 5 times, we lose 4 of them.
 

MasterOfPuppets

Charger fan since 1979
#17
Thread_Killer said:
I don't think LT is the best back in football.
best back in football <> perfect, or the best of all time

with that in mind, who would you say is the best back in football?

I agree that LT does nt look as dominant as we did a few years back, but there is no other RB I would like to have over LT
 

AnteaterRaider

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#18
ntman68 said:
I shiver thinking of what Manning could do against our secondary, though...
i shiver when I think of our front seven against their offensive line
I shiver with goosebumps of delight :lol:
 

exodus

Well-Known Member
#19
boltssbbound said:
Theezeman is a joke. Not because he didn't pick the Bolts, but because his logic is so flawed.

The only thing that's changed with the Colts is that they are not as good as last year, when they also couldn't get it done. The Colts can't run and can't stop the run. The only way they win games is on the strength of Manning's arm. They are not a championship team.
No kidding. And he's saying they're not soft??? And responding well to playing without Edge?!?

The Chargers are really playing at a higher level right now. They need to keep this thing rolling.:tup:
 

Thread_Killer

Well-Known Member
#20
MasterOfPuppets said:
best back in football <> perfect, or the best of all time

with that in mind, who would you say is the best back in football?

I agree that LT does nt look as dominant as we did a few years back, but there is no other RB I would like to have over LT
I'd have to think about it. LT had AMAZING fantasy league numbers yesterday, but he still only had a 3.4 ypc average. And the people who attended the game could see that LT wasn't touched on three of his TD's.

I'm just saying that his performance yesterday was overhyped, and he might be a tad overrated by the media right now.
 

MasterOfPuppets

Charger fan since 1979
#21
Thread_Killer said:
I'm just saying that his performance yesterday was overhyped, and he might be a tad overrated by the media right now.
Maybe, yesterday was not an impresive day for LT (althought that TD where he jumped over the standing line men was great)

Maybe we're spoiled and if LT doesn't run for 150 and 2 TD we think he's losing it.

Maybe the fact that there are other weapons that can be used just as effectively take the spot light away from LT.

Again, there is no other RB I would like to have over LT, so to me, that makes him the best in football
 

Thread_Killer

Well-Known Member
#22
MasterOfPuppets said:
Maybe, yesterday was not an impresive day for LT (althought that TD where he jumped over the standing line men was great)

Maybe we're spoiled and if LT doesn't run for 150 and 2 TD we think he's losing it.

Maybe the fact that there are other weapons that can be used just as effectively take the spot light away from LT.

Again, there is no other RB I would like to have over LT, so to me, that makes him the best in football
Well said. I like having LT in Lightning Bolts as well. :tup:
 

boltssbbound

Well-Known Member
#23
ntman68 said:
I hear you, but I believe our victory over the Colts last year was a perfect storm (no pun intended). I won't diminish the accomplishment, but I think that if we played that game 5 times, we lose 4 of them.
I don't know how you can say that, when we went into their house and dominated them.
 

boltssbbound

Well-Known Member
#24
Thread_Killer said:
I'd have to think about it. LT had AMAZING fantasy league numbers yesterday, but he still only had a 3.4 ypc average. And the people who attended the game could see that LT wasn't touched on three of his TD's.

I'm just saying that his performance yesterday was overhyped, and he might be a tad overrated by the media right now.
Yes, but when you see LT with the ball, when you see him in space, when you see him stiff arm Sammy davis to the turf with ease, when you see him stop and start and make three cuts in the time it takes most backs to make one, you realize that he's in a whole different league. Whether he was touched or not on those plays, LT was amazing yesterday. Even without the touchdowns. I don't care about his YPC. Stats don't tell the whole story. LT was amazing. It was one of his best performances, at least of the many I've seen live.

And let's not forget his pass receiving. LT averaged 9 yards per reception. 140 yards from scrimmage and 4 TDs is not exactly an off day.

Last week, while his numbers weren't eye-popping, LT was great in blitz pickup. He stoned Polamalu on several blitzes, giving Rivers plenty of time to pick apart the Steelers.
 

ntman68

Well-Known Member
#25
boltssbbound said:
I don't know how you can say that, when we went into their house and dominated them.
Yes, but that game was bracketed by three losses, two of which should have been won without much dispute. My only point is, the Chargers track record is one of inconsistency, that's all.
 
#26
ntman68 said:
Yes, but that game was bracketed by three losses, two of which should have been won without much dispute. My only point is, the Chargers track record is one of inconsistency, that's all.

Yeah but we didn't have Oben for those games...
 

boltssbbound

Well-Known Member
#27
ntman68 said:
Yes, but that game was bracketed by three losses, two of which should have been won without much dispute. My only point is, the Chargers track record is one of inconsistency, that's all.
Are we talking about last year's team or this year's? This year's team has not been very inconsistent.

#1 in the AFC in Offense

#1 in the AFC in Defense

Averaging
30 points per game

10 points allowed

Where's the inconsistency?
 

ntman68

Well-Known Member
#28
boltssbbound said:
Are we talking about last year's team or this year's? This year's team has not been very inconsistent.
Well, I was talking about last years team... the one that beat the Colts. The 2006 squad is playing very steady right now, and I couldn't be happier. The point of my original post was that, given the performace of our secondary against the 49ers, I would imagine Peyton and crew would have done more damage.
 

boltssbbound

Well-Known Member
#30
ntman68 said:
Well, I was talking about last years team... the one that beat the Colts. The 2006 squad is playing very steady right now, and I couldn't be happier. The point of my original post was that, given the performace of our secondary against the 49ers, I would imagine Peyton and crew would have done more damage.
You seem to be one of those people that, if given any chance to worry, you will. Our secondary allowed some plays against the Niners, but we also shut them out in the 2nd half. In the 2nd half this year, we've allowed 16 points in 5 games. 3 points per game in the 2nd half. That's incredible.

I was not happy about some of the plays we gave up in the first half, either. But we corrected those things and played well in the 2nd half.

You aren't going to shut out every opponent.
 

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