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Dammit.. Mike Riley loses again LOL.........wtf....why does every team I root for lose???? Generals HAD it. D let them down. Plus why is Riley putting in #1 in the last series instead of Perez? #1 (? Williams) can't hit the broad side of a barn throwing the ball. Had a receiver wide open long and thew it way short (although Perez did something similar earlier). Oh well, summary: USFL way better than NFL for watching. Way better announcing and production and the game just flows way better.....did they reduce the play clock? Overall took about 3 hours......but seems like the actual plays and time between plays was short so lots of action. Best part is the announcing and the mic/sound and camera shots. Damn they went all out for the production......high quality and makes watching football way more entertaining. A regular season NFL game is completely boring compared with this game. JMHO.
 

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Dammit.. Mike Riley loses again LOL.........wtf....why does every team I root for lose???? Generals HAD it. D let them down. Plus why is Riley putting in #1 in the last series instead of Perez? #1 (? Williams) can't hit the broad side of a barn throwing the ball. Had a receiver wide open long and thew it way short (although Perez did something similar earlier). Oh well, summary: USFL way better than NFL for watching. Way better announcing and production and the game just flows way better.....did they reduce the play clock? Overall took about 3 hours......but seems like the actual plays and time between plays was short so lots of action. Best part is the announcing and the mic/sound and camera shots. Damn they went all out for the production......high quality and makes watching football way more entertaining. A regular season NFL game is completely boring compared with this game. JMHO.
Yes, play clock is 35 seconds.

Mike Riley losing at the end brought back some bad memories.
 
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Yeah, it is weird they’re all playing in Birmingham but I get it, the league is all about viewership, so eight stadiums are not needed, especially since the other seven teams already have NFL teams, makes sense to consolidate the stadium in Birmingham as that city is starving for pro football so they’d logically get more butts in the seats. I enjoyed the game today, I might tune in tomorrow since the Pads won’t be on until the late afternoon game on ESPN tomorrow.
yeah true. I might watch this instead of Padres a lot this year on weekends....we'll see how the Padres progress but they are starting to show signs of 2021, very frustrating team to watch frankly. It's still way earlier to comment definitively but that's what it looks like to me anyways , so far. I'll check out Yu tomorrow. He needs to rebound in a big way. But our offense is what kills me too......wth. Too many laggards again. Tati will help but won't entirely compensate. I predict another 3rd place finish but probably make the playoffs this time.
 
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Plus why is Riley putting in #1 in the last series instead of Perez? #1 (? Williams) can't hit the broad side of a barn throwing the ball.
Dumb move, typical Mike Riley. #1 is a great runner and I think early on you’ll see these offenses lean on running QBs but defenses will catch up. I like that they use two QBs like that.
 
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Dumb move, typical Mike Riley. #1 is a great runner and I think early on you’ll see these offenses lean on running QBs but defenses will catch up. I like that they use two QBs like that.
It's an exciting brand of football. I liked some of the runners. One of the Generals runners reminded me a bit of Sproles. They get to the corner fast and turn it upfield. The D of the Stallions was lacking on the outside contain so the Generals took advantage. I'd not heard that much on field chatter between coach and QB before now.....it's fun to hear and the thing about it was the announcers did a perfect job of translating on the fly.....not very easy to do given they had to multitask calling the action and explaining the terminology all at the same time LOL. Let's see guys like Romo do that as smoothly....never gonna happen. They picked the perfect announcing team to start the season. I wonder how those games will be covered as far as announcing .....they can't have the same announcers for all games I'd think. Hopefully the other teams are just as good but that would be very hard to do I think. FOX Sports gets an A+ for that first game. I'm on board just wish SD had a team already to go...we can wait though and see if this league has legs. I just wish we had a better stadium waiting for them if they catch fire. I like enclosed stadiums, way better for football although Levi went to that sort of open stadium concept with a large deck on each side.......I prefer just a big enclosed stadium all the way around and like the Q was, or even Balboa mostly enclosed with one open end. I"m not sure I can get on board attending a game at that little POS they are putting up in MV LOL. WTH. It's like coitis interruptus after having the NFL and the Q for so many years. LOL.
 
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which begs the question: could they have not renovated the Q for 250 million rather than build a rinky dink stadium? Honestly.....driving by there reminds me a little of driving by the Oregon Ducks complex in Eugene OR.....a college stadium, only this will be on a smaller scale and not nearly as nice most likely. In Eugene it blends in and fits,,,,,,,MV not so much.
The q could not be renovated.

You can blame whoever you want but it doesn’t change my opinion of fuck the nfl. and Dean wanted out. Look around did all these teams with new stadiums really need a new one? The answer is no.
 
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I didn't watch it but I saw some clips on Twitter. The drone cameras and the other little production value things they did was really cool.

As far as the NFL goes, I'm glad they're gone. I wish I came to that conclusion earlier.
 

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The q could not be renovated.

You can blame whoever you want but it doesn’t change my opinion of fuck the nfl. and Dean wanted out. Look around did all these teams with new stadiums really need a new one? The answer is no.
Never argued that point. And YOU can blame the nfl or the city or whoever you want but the fact remains, that little bandbox is, and always will be, a testament to what SHOULD have been in MV with an owner who could build as Kroeke did. THAT is what Congress should start investigating and get those greeedy bastards for, leveraging cities out of money is wrong and also Arlen Specter's determination to get them on antitrust legistlation should be revived by someone who isn't corrupt as hell as most of DC is and the NFL and owners are. Same ol'.
 

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Never argued that point. And YOU can blame the nfl or the city or whoever you want but the fact remains, that little bandbox is, and always will be, a testament to what SHOULD have been in MV with an owner who could build as Kroeke did. THAT is what Congress should start investigating and get those greeedy bastards for, leveraging cities out of money is wrong and also Arlen Specter's determination to get them on antitrust legistlation should be revived by someone who isn't corrupt as hell as most of DC is and the NFL and owners are. Same ol'.
There was a guy on the old Powder Blues site named Den60. Was a SDSU alum who became a pariah on the Aztecs board back in the day, fighting with all the Aztecs fans who wanted the Chargers gone so they could raze the Q and take the land to build a “better” (i.e., smaller) venue for their football program. This was back in the Norv era so we’re talking about a long time ago.

The way everything happened so quickly after the Chargers left, within weeks after they left both Soccer City (who Faulkner and Sherman supported) and SDSU (who got a boost from the City Attorney) had their proposals all ready to go and the special election was scheduled within weeks. Such orchestration, makes me think ALL parties acted in collusion. The Chargers wanted to leave and the city wanted NOTHING to do with the site so they didn’t generally care, though both Faulkner and Sherman wanted Soccer City so I’m sure they got financial compensation in some way for their services. We, the sports fans lost. I’m sure that Snapdragon stadium will be as nice as a small modern venue can be but the Q could have been saved if the city just provided the upkeep over the years like they were contractually supposed to. It wa a jewel of an architecture, it would shine in the night like a beacon as you came down the hill, the architect who designed it did it perfectly, that is all gone. Just like everything historically good in San Diego.

On a related note, I visited San Francisco recently and was completely dismayed how that city could retain all of its historical architecture and we could not. No wonder why they look down upon us as a city. We have terrible leadership and frankly, short sighted citizenry too.
 
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Watching the Philadelphia Stars - New Orleans Breakers game and there was a call of incomplete pass when a receiver seemingly caught the ball in the air but the ruling was incomplete out of bounds. Mike Perrerera (sp?) who used to commentate on NFL games as a replay official commentator is now the head of officiating for the USFL, and he is also in the booth and did his replay review on the air - he told the replay official to overturn the call because the receiver hit his elbow and shoulder in bounds before his foot hit out. I like it, total transparency, an honest attempt to make the right call.
 

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There was a guy on the old Powder Blues site named Den60. Was a SDSU alum who became a pariah on the Aztecs board back in the day, fighting with all the Aztecs fans who wanted the Chargers gone so they could raze the Q and take the land to build a “better” (i.e., smaller) venue for their football program. This was back in the Norv era so we’re talking about a long time ago.

The way everything happened so quickly after the Chargers left, within weeks after they left both Soccer City (who Faulkner and Sherman supported) and SDSU (who got a boost from the City Attorney) had their proposals all ready to go and the special election was scheduled within weeks. Such orchestration, makes me think ALL parties acted in collusion. The Chargers wanted to leave and the city wanted NOTHING to do with the site so they didn’t generally care, though both Faulkner and Sherman wanted Soccer City so I’m sure they got financial compensation in some way for their services. We, the sports fans lost. I’m sure that Snapdragon stadium will be as nice as a small modern venue can be but the Q could have been saved if the city just provided the upkeep over the years like they were contractually supposed to. It wa a jewel of an architecture, it would shine in the night like a beacon as you came down the hill, the architect who designed it did it perfectly, that is all gone. Just like everything historically good in San Diego.

On a related note, I visited San Francisco recently and was completely dismayed how that city could retain all of its historical architecture and we could not. No wonder why they look down upon us as a city. We have terrible leadership and frankly, short sighted citizenry too.
Depends where you go in the city. If you are talking about downtown San Diego then I agree. But outside of the city people have done a wonderful job in the county of restoring historical buildings and landmarks.
 

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There was a guy on the old Powder Blues site named Den60. Was a SDSU alum who became a pariah on the Aztecs board back in the day, fighting with all the Aztecs fans who wanted the Chargers gone so they could raze the Q and take the land to build a “better” (i.e., smaller) venue for their football program. This was back in the Norv era so we’re talking about a long time ago.

The way everything happened so quickly after the Chargers left, within weeks after they left both Soccer City (who Faulkner and Sherman supported) and SDSU (who got a boost from the City Attorney) had their proposals all ready to go and the special election was scheduled within weeks. Such orchestration, makes me think ALL parties acted in collusion. The Chargers wanted to leave and the city wanted NOTHING to do with the site so they didn’t generally care, though both Faulkner and Sherman wanted Soccer City so I’m sure they got financial compensation in some way for their services. We, the sports fans lost. I’m sure that Snapdragon stadium will be as nice as a small modern venue can be but the Q could have been saved if the city just provided the upkeep over the years like they were contractually supposed to. It wa a jewel of an architecture, it would shine in the night like a beacon as you came down the hill, the architect who designed it did it perfectly, that is all gone. Just like everything historically good in San Diego.

On a related note, I visited San Francisco recently and was completely dismayed how that city could retain all of its historical architecture and we could not. No wonder why they look down upon us as a city. We have terrible leadership and frankly, short sighted citizenry too.
I still blame Dean because he never had the “it” factor to get a deal done. It should have been easy to ram through a stadium with our city. It’s just Dean is so inept. There was a deal to be done with sanders or Murphy way back in the Marty and norv years. And I am talking any location. Not just mission valley.

As far as jack Murphy goes. Its a bad investment to upkeep a stadium that is not being used. And frankly, only the nfl could fill a 70k stadium on a regular basis in this city. The nfl is never coming back so the Murph had to go.
 

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Depends where you go in the city. If you are talking about downtown San Diego then I agree. But outside of the city people have done a wonderful job in the county of restoring historical buildings and landmarks.
Historical landmarks that are officially designated can’t be touched and they have actually done that to buildings downtown too. The Giant Dipper at Belmont Park was going to be razed in the 80s, thank god a group cared enough to hustle through a landmark application and got it pushed through. Otherwise there would be ugly condos and generic looking businesses in its place.

But yes, I am talking mostly about downtown but there are other areas in San Diego proper that suffer from this too. The North Park and all adjacent areas is a prime example. So many historical buildings with beautiful architecture is either covered up with generic looking facades or are just allowed to rot altogether and then eventually get razed. We (San Diego) are horrible at that.
 

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I still blame Dean because he never had the “it” factor to get a deal done. It should have been easy to ram through a stadium with our city. It’s just Dean is so inept. There was a deal to be done with sanders or Murphy way back in the Marty and norv years. And I am talking any location. Not just mission valley.

As far as jack Murphy goes. Its a bad investment to upkeep a stadium that is not being used. And frankly, only the nfl could fill a 70k stadium on a regular basis in this city. The nfl is never coming back so the Murph had to go.
You’re talking about 2015. I’m talking about 1997 and thereabouts, once the city saw that Dean was content to just do nothing they responded in kind, even though upkeep was their responsibility. They willingly participated in a pissing match. They also had no money either but that’s another discussion on the city’s ineptitude. All that said, Fuck Dean.
 
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There was a guy on the old Powder Blues site named Den60. Was a SDSU alum who became a pariah on the Aztecs board back in the day, fighting with all the Aztecs fans who wanted the Chargers gone so they could raze the Q and take the land to build a “better” (i.e., smaller) venue for their football program. This was back in the Norv era so we’re talking about a long time ago.

The way everything happened so quickly after the Chargers left, within weeks after they left both Soccer City (who Faulkner and Sherman supported) and SDSU (who got a boost from the City Attorney) had their proposals all ready to go and the special election was scheduled within weeks. Such orchestration, makes me think ALL parties acted in collusion. The Chargers wanted to leave and the city wanted NOTHING to do with the site so they didn’t generally care, though both Faulkner and Sherman wanted Soccer City so I’m sure they got financial compensation in some way for their services. We, the sports fans lost. I’m sure that Snapdragon stadium will be as nice as a small modern venue can be but the Q could have been saved if the city just provided the upkeep over the years like they were contractually supposed to. It wa a jewel of an architecture, it would shine in the night like a beacon as you came down the hill, the architect who designed it did it perfectly, that is all gone. Just like everything historically good in San Diego.

On a related note, I visited San Francisco recently and was completely dismayed how that city could retain all of its historical architecture and we could not. No wonder why they look down upon us as a city. We have terrible leadership and frankly, short sighted citizenry too.
So I highlighted the paragraph you started with which is why I also look upon that little piss ant stadium they are building as a testament to the corruption and collusion that resulted in the mfing Aztecs getting all that for themselves. I believe all along they did not cooperate as they should have to get a deal done where all parties could benefit. As you say, the Aztecs always wanted that for themselves and a smaller venue as the minor league program there in football is never going to attract enough fans in SD to fill a large stadium like the Q was. But to that I say SO THE FUCK WHAT??? Now they have their little venue and also land around if for a partial campus. I am no longer a SDSU fan for that reason. Eff them. But I also realize spanos and the city council were largely responsible as well. I just think there were those who had more influence from SDSU that made this happen. They could have forked over money of their own to help get a real stadium built.....but then again spanos was dead set against staying as far back as the early 2000's, like around 2005-6 when things were not working because of idiots like Aguirre etc etc. The City Council was negligent in allowing dean an out on the lease and also allowing that stupid ticket guarantee , all which turned the city against the greedy spanos. Major clusterfuck by a minor league sports town. Now we have to hope the Padres somehow bring a WS championship because that is the only way SD will at least partially get the minor league inept sportstown image off it's back. That stupid little stadium is just another reminder of how minor league SD is.....I hate it and hate SDSU for making that happen. JMHO. The homer SDSU and SD fans who rationalize it all are just too biased to realize how that looks to the rest of the sports world and out of towners. Embarassing. Yeah the NFL sucks the big one....but USFL or other leagues may at some point come in and want a larger stadium if they are growing in popularity and catch hold. Even the NFL might expand as Sam Farmer said SD would be one of the first destinations for expansion or if a current team decides to relocate.....but now without a stadium it's never gonna get done unless a saviour like Kroenke wants in. I'm not a fan of Tsai anymore for reasons I already stated. And besides, MV was perfect for what Farmer is talking about and SD let it all go to SDSU blocking any hope of that ever happening in the valley where it was a perfect central locale for an entire major league sports complex. Now it would have to go to some other area and I don't thing anything close to what MV offers would be that worth it frankly. Downtown has major issues with parking and tailgating.....I never liked that stupid idea that dean mfing spanos insisted on. He was only doing that because he wanted out of SD and refused to consider the plan the council was ready to negotiate for MV. LOL. Fabiani and spanos are major league liars and minor league sports owners.

I get it re: the fans that now hate the NFL. I can fully understand why they don't want it coming back, it is so commercialized and hyped and full of mostly greedy owners who leverage cities. It's why I'd want an owner who could afford to build his/her own stadium and develop that land in MV. THAT is what the city should have worked towards and saved that land for. SDSU could still use it as well, but they were also greedy and had to have it all for themselves....mfers. Spanos, the CityCouncil, and SDSU can all go eff themselves as MV will never again be able to serve as a terrific tailgating venue for sports and mainly football but could have been utilized for an entire sports complex including a sports arena and convention facility. Shortsighted for sure. Sell the damn land to someone wealthy enough to develop it all and reap the benefits. They thought small. I think the CityCouncil is opposed to sports , that is a political conflict I believe that resulted in this mess, plus some were likely corrupt and taking bribes from various competing interests like hotels, SDSU, soccer, etc. I doubt they ever seriously attempted to pursue an indvidual or consortium who were wealthy enough to develop MV similar to the proposal they had for Spanos in 2004...that was what should have been done but was blocked by anti-sports environmentalists and city council goofs at that time. After that the recession hit and public funds were unavailable. the cheap bastard spanos could never afford to do anything on his own....that is why he's renting from a real business person like Kroenke. SD just gets cheapass owners and so Klein and Spanos were major impediments to keeping the NFL and profootball in this town. It is hard to believe this town would not support a large stadium, in fact I think an independent study by National Univ showed we are right there with BAL and CLE as capable of supporting PSL's. Sam Farmer I believe is correct.....the only problem is no one will be coming now at least to MV....SDSU bastards got it all for themselves by hook or crook. Very sad for SD sports.
 
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So I highlighted the paragraph you started with which is why I also look upon that little piss ant stadium they are building as a testament to the corruption and collusion that resulted in the mfing Aztecs getting all that for themselves. I believe all along they did not cooperate as they should have to get a deal done where all parties could benefit. As you say, the Aztecs always wanted that for themselves and a smaller venue as the minor league program there in football is never going to attract enough fans in SD to fill a large stadium like the Q was. But to that I say SO THE FUCK WHAT??? Now they have their little venue and also land around if for a partial campus. I am no longer a SDSU fan for that reason. Eff them. But I also realize spanos and the city council were largely responsible as well. I just think there were those who had more influence from SDSU that made this happen. They could have forked over money of their own to help get a real stadium built.....but then again spanos was dead set against staying as far back as the early 2000's, like around 2005-6 when things were not working because of idiots like Aguirre etc etc. The City Council was negligent in allowing dean an out on the lease and also allowing that stupid ticket guarantee , all which turned the city against the greedy spanos. Major clusterfuck by a minor league sports town. Now we have to hope the Padres somehow bring a WS championship because that is the only way SD will at least partially get the minor league inept sportstown image off it's back. That stupid little stadium is just another reminder of how minor league SD is.....I hate it and hate SDSU for making that happen. JMHO. The homer SDSU and SD fans who rationalize it all are just too biased to realize how that looks to the rest of the sports world and out of towners. Embarassing. Yeah the NFL sucks the big one....but USFL or other leagues may at some point come in and want a larger stadium if they are growing in popularity and catch hold. Even the NFL might expand as Sam Farmer said SD would be one of the first destinations for expansion or if a current team decides to relocate.....but now without a stadium it's never gonna get done unless a saviour like Kroenke wants in. I'm not a fan of Tsai anymore for reasons I already stated.
The city gifted UCSD 2300 acres a long time ago in prime real estate market of la jolla. SDSU wanted mission valley decades ago to expand the campus since the area around the current campus is landlocked due to the housing around it. Universities like sdsu usd and ucsd have a much greater economic impact than a football team and it is not even close. I am not looking at this through a sports lens but whats best for the region. The city should have no problem building an arena to get a nhl and nba team which is a much better solution than a football team. You could fill 80 dates a year with an arena.
 
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So I highlighted the paragraph you started with which is why I also look upon that little piss ant stadium they are building as a testament to the corruption and collusion that resulted in the mfing Aztecs getting all that for themselves. I believe all along they did not cooperate as they should have to get a deal done where all parties could benefit. As you say, the Aztecs always wanted that for themselves and a smaller venue as the minor league program there in football is never going to attract enough fans in SD to fill a large stadium like the Q was. But to that I say SO THE FUCK WHAT??? Now they have their little venue and also land around if for a partial campus. I am no longer a SDSU fan for that reason. Eff them. But I also realize spanos and the city council were largely responsible as well. I just think there were those who had more influence from SDSU that made this happen. They could have forked over money of their own to help get a real stadium built.....but then again spanos was dead set against staying as far back as the early 2000's, like around 2005-6 when things were not working because of idiots like Aguirre etc etc. The City Council was negligent in allowing dean an out on the lease and also allowing that stupid ticket guarantee , all which turned the city against the greedy spanos. Major clusterfuck by a minor league sports town. Now we have to hope the Padres somehow bring a WS championship because that is the only way SD will at least partially get the minor league inept sportstown image off it's back. That stupid little stadium is just another reminder of how minor league SD is.....I hate it and hate SDSU for making that happen. JMHO. The homer SDSU and SD fans who rationalize it all are just too biased to realize how that looks to the rest of the sports world and out of towners. Embarassing. Yeah the NFL sucks the big one....but USFL or other leagues may at some point come in and want a larger stadium if they are growing in popularity and catch hold. Even the NFL might expand as Sam Farmer said SD would be one of the first destinations for expansion or if a current team decides to relocate.....but now without a stadium it's never gonna get done unless a saviour like Kroenke wants in. I'm not a fan of Tsai anymore for reasons I already stated.
Nailed it. It seems like such synchronized synergy with the whole thing going back to 2000. We the fans were shut out of the process, even worse we were led to believe we had a say.
 
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Nailed it. It seems like such synchronized synergy with the whole thing going back to 2000. We the fans were shut out of the process, even worse we were led to believe we had a say.
its not synchronized. its riddled with incompetency. Dean blew it.
 

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its not synchronized. its riddled with incompetency. Dean blew it.
Perhaps. But Soccer City, SDSU, and the city had a special election ready to go mere weeks after the Chugs pulled the trigger. That couldn’t have gotten done without coordination and planning between all parties.
 
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The city gifted UCSD 2300 acres a long time ago in prime real estate market of la jolla. SDSU wanted mission valley decades ago to expand the campus since the area around the current campus is landlocked due to the housing around it. Universities like sdsu usd and ucsd have a much greater economic impact than a football team and it is not even close. I am not looking at this through a sports lens but whats best for the region. The city should have no problem building an arena to get a nhl and nba team which is a much better solution than a football team. You could fill 80 dates a year with an arena.
Yes true re: universities but then why do so many major league cities like PHI , PITT, NY, NE/Boston, Bay Area, LA, etc etc etc etc etc....ALL have multiple top notch universities that are equal to or much better than UCSD, SDSU, USD??????.......SDSU and USD are far below the multiple elite universities of many major league cities. Just the way it is. Face it, this city is not getting the job done based on it's size compared with the rest of the nation. Just isn't. It's incompetence and corruption. So that little bandbox will always remind me of that fact.
 
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Yes true re: universities but then why do so many major league cities like PHI , PITT, NY, NE/Boston, Bay Area, LA, etc etc etc etc etc....ALL have multiple top notch universities that are equal to or much better than UCSD, SDSU, USD??????.......SDSU and USD are far below the multiple elite universities of many major league cities. Just the way it is. Face it, this city is not getting the job done based on it's size compared with the rest of the nation. Just isn't. It's incompetence and corruption. So that little bandbox will always remind me of that fact.
New York and LA are world class markets. Population sizes that dwarf ours.

cities like Pitt, Philly and buff are fucking stupid and ran by ass clowns. Those cities are dumps and an embarrassment to our nation.
 

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Also, the state of California doesn’t allow state funds used for stadium type projects. Rightfully so by the way.

the nfl is also fleecing states for these funds and not just the city.
 
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New York and LA are world class markets. Population sizes that dwarf ours.

cities like Pitt, Philly and buff are fucking stupid and ran by ass clowns. Those cities are dumps and an embarrassment to our nation.
Also, the state of California doesn’t allow state funds used for stadium type projects. Rightfully so by the way.

the nfl is also fleecing states for these funds and not just the city.
understood on state funding, I've already addressed that. RE: the universities in those cities.....you are dissing some great universities that make SDSU and USD look look minor league and small division in academics, sorry. I'm NOT talking just LA and NY, it's all across the nation in just about every NFL city, great universities.....world class in most of em. And if you want to rag on the politics of those cities fine, but do that in the playground;):tup:
 
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understood on state funding, I've already addressed that. RE: the universities in those cities.....you are dissing some great universities that make SDSU and USD look look minor league and small division in academics, sorry. I'm NOT talking just LA and NY, it's all across the nation in just about every NFL city, great universities.....world class in most of em. And if you want to rag on the politics of those cities fine, but do that in the playground;):tup:
ucsd and sdsu are word class universities. Check their acceptance rates and number of applied.
Sdsu is about to get r1 status.
 
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ucsd and sdsu are word class universities. Check their acceptance rates and number of applied.
Sdsu is about to get r1 status.
ucsd yes, sdsu not so much. sdsu ranked #148 nationally. ucsd #34. Big difference. R1 simply means they are research intensive so are allowed more grant money for research. Amazing it's taken them this long to get that rating frankly. But it's ok.....I"m still a big SD fan either way......doesn't mean I have to be a homer for sdsu. I'd love it if they improved and became a bigtime academic and sports powerhouse and further put SD on the map. UCSD will never be a sports powerhouse but will always be an academic powerhouse......I remember when the student body voted to not have a football team LOL. That was back in the 60's LOL.
 

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I'm watching replay of Philadelphia-Puttsburgh.
Where is everbody? Looks like maybe 100 folks on side of the stands.
Nobody on the other side.
 
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I'm watching replay of Philadelphia-Puttsburgh.
Where is everbody? Looks like maybe 100 folks on side of the stands.
Nobody on the other side.
Sad to hear. I'm sorry I'm not helping the ratings by watching but have way to much on my plate right now. If that's the turnout in Birmingham that's not good. But what counts way more than that is # of gamblers and also # of viewers. So the fact they held every game in the same town and those were 2 teams from out of town doensn't really mean a hell of a lot.