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Gill Man

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wow, same crew??? Amazing. NFL does not discipline or warn these guys for such blatant screwups? If not, why not? Why is that crew still being allowed to officiate the SB after just those 2 horrendously bad mistakes? What other malfeasance have they been responsible for? I'd love to see that. And here they are going to the SB. What a mess. Credibility of NFL out the window. For all we know maybe the spanoses REAL record should be 4-11 lolz.
 

Faded Blues

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wow, same crew??? Amazing. NFL does not discipline or warn these guys for such blatant screwups? If not, why not? Why is that crew still being allowed to officiate the SB after just those 2 horrendously bad mistakes? What other malfeasance have they been responsible for? I'd love to see that. And here they are going to the SB. What a mess. Credibility of NFL out the window. For all we know maybe the spanoses REAL record should be 4-11 lolz.
Yup.

It’s is looking to be by design.

Obvious wrong calls made at key moments.
 

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In addition, I don’t think that this is a recent phenomenon.

Technology has made us aware of how blatant the bad calls are.

1080p was the lens the fans needed to see what was there all along.
 

Gill Man

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Yup.

It’s is looking to be by design.

Obvious wrong calls made at key moments.
I’m beginning to think gambling is influencing these game and not just football either.
In addition, I don’t think that this is a recent phenomenon.

Technology has made us aware of how blatant the bad calls are.

1080p was the lens the fans needed to see what was there all along.
yeah I think you are on the right track with this...........gambling might be playing a large part in it, ie they are making some blatant calls here and there perhaps to narrow the point spread. That is one possible explanation. The other is to harvest the optimum matchups in playoffs and in particular SB to garner ratings/revenue. And of course certain markets might require a boost in interest and we know where that is going at this particular time. I just fail to believe the officials are that blind. Some try to explain it away as the plays occur so fast that mistakes like that can be made. Uh,no.The official on both the Tevi ridiculous false start non call and the official on this non call PI were responsible for ONE thing....they were keying on that particular area of the field, one the line judge, the other the back judge. You simply do not use that 'game too fast' excuse unless you are completely incompetent and are too slow to be doing the job to which you were assigned and for which you are supposed to be a professional at. It would be analagous to a physician committing gross negligence. Difference is these guys cannot be sued. They should be because they have denied players bonuses and fans have been denied the opportunity to purchase tickets to playoffs/SB that were part of the deal when they purchased regular game season tickets. Plus there is pain and suffering for fan bases. Sue them. And sue the NFL for the charade they are perpetrating on the American sporting public.

Boy that felt good lolz.
 

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How can you sue a business for its own decisions about its own business? Suing the NFL over a blown call is like suing the producers of Adam Sandler's latest moving for a bad joke. A better decision buy Saints' season-ticket holders is to stop wasting money on the NFL.
 

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Part of the problem might be the nfl referee grading system.

There is not a lot of documented information on the actual system but as I recall from the commentary during games the last couple of years;

All fouls are reviewed and graded during the week for correctness. (which is how we get the playoff & super bowl officiating teams)
All missed calls are reviewed and graded, a score is assigned to the official who missed the call
All incorrect calls are reviewed and graded, a score is assigned to the official who blew the call

What I recall is the scoring system penalizes the missed call less than the blown call. So maybe the issue is the refs are encouraged to 'when in doubt don't wip it out' (not in the Kevin Spacey way, more in the leave the yellow hankie tucked in your back pocket way).

https://operations.nfl.com/the-officials/these-officials-are-really-good/
 

Faded Blues

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Part of the problem might be the nfl referee grading system.

There is not a lot of documented information on the actual system but as I recall from the commentary during games the last couple of years;

All fouls are reviewed and graded during the week for correctness. (which is how we get the playoff & super bowl officiating teams)
All missed calls are reviewed and graded, a score is assigned to the official who missed the call
All incorrect calls are reviewed and graded, a score is assigned to the official who blew the call

What I recall is the scoring system penalizes the missed call less than the blown call. So maybe the issue is the refs are encouraged to 'when in doubt don't wip it out' (not in the Kevin Spacey way, more in the leave the yellow hankie tucked in your back pocket way).

https://operations.nfl.com/the-officials/these-officials-are-really-good/
The nfl doesn’t seem to concern at the moment about the poor officiating.
 

Faded Blues

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How can you sue a business for its own decisions about its own business? Suing the NFL over a blown call is like suing the producers of Adam Sandler's latest moving for a bad joke. A better decision buy Saints' season-ticket holders is to stop wasting money on the NFL.
They can sue if they can prove that the nfl is purposefully adjusting scores for gambling purposes. In fact, it is illegal.

Will this case ever see the light of day in court...?... fuck no.
 

Gill Man

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They can sue if they can prove that the nfl is purposefully adjusting scores for gambling purposes. In fact, it is illegal.

Will this case ever see the light of day in court...?... **** no.
yeah was discussed a bit on 1090 this am, not much chance that sees the light of day in court. Will get tossed. Although they sort of tongue in cheek said ya never know if a judge in N.O. court is a huge Saints fan. lolz.
 

Harryo the K

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I sincerely hope there are not one, not two, but three referee screwups made in the Super Bowl game . Now remember, these have to be calls that are obviously wrong. Not “calls not made”. It would be far more enjoyable if the refs would call one such play per quarter, 100% wrong. Even make up rulings, “The quarterback escaped the pocket, then returned to the pocket and then overthrew the receiver. In the process he had hands to the face of the pass rusher, causing a personal foul. 15 yards and half the distance to the first down marker.”
 

Quetzalcoatl

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They can sue if they can prove that the nfl is purposefully adjusting scores for gambling purposes. In fact, it is illegal.

Will this case ever see the light of day in court...?... **** no.
Is that what they are suing the NFL for? It is true that fixing games over gambling is illegal. However, the NFL owners and its commissioner aren't dumb enough to do anything that illegal. They influence games to perpetuate story lines most people will likely follow. Getting the Pats and L.A. to the Super Bowl means big ratings and a win for the NFL's broadcasters, streaming partners, and advertisers. There is nothing illegal about the NFL fixing its own business to make a profit.
That being said, some games, especially the Super Bowl, are influenced by gambling. The NFL would not be at fault for that. Gamblers and bookies have their own ways of getting to the game's participants. The most million-dollar bets in Super Bowl history were placed on the underdog Eagles last year.
 

Harryo the K

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Wrong calls...non calls have been made for decades.....difference today is billionaire owners have adjusted the rules each year, no clear rules lines, replay, and an entitlement that they should win because they really own the League. If you think the Saints call was a big deal, imagine Kraft and Patriots if they think they got “cheated” out of their destiny.
 
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Gill Man

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That empty look on his face...Must be the loser feeling from the jacket. ;)
lolz, the Pro Bowl AFC coach Anthony Lynn asked him to put it on so the chargers could have an MVP for just a little while.
 
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