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Raiders' Incognito docked 2 games for conduct


Oakland Raiders guard Richie Incognito has been suspended two games for violating the NFL's personal conduct policy.
Incognito is eligible to participate in all practices and preseason games, but can't return to the team's regular season active roster until Sept. 16.
He pleaded guilty in April to two misdemeanors after an incident involving his 90-year-old grandmother that took place in August in Peoria, Arizona.
According to court documents obtained by ESPN, Incognito agreed to plead guilty to charges of criminal damage and disorderly conduct -- both Class 1 misdemeanors in Arizona -- after he punched a fist-sized hole in a wall in the living room and ripped a security system's control box off the wall during an argument with his grandmother at her house on Aug. 19, 2018.
The police report described Incognito as "enraged" and that he blamed his grandmother for the death of his father, which he had announced on Twitter the day before. A domestic violence charge was removed when a plea agreement was reached on April 1.
Incognito was ordered to take 10 weekly anger-management sessions and pay a $569 fine. He also was given one year of unsupervised probation per terms of the agreement. Incognito was ordered to stay away from his grandmother's home, stay on his medication, avoid alcohol, not possess firearms and write a letter of apology.
He also pleaded guilty in April in Scottsdale, Arizona, to a misdemeanor disorderly conduct charge stemming from an arrest in August. Two days after the fight with his grandmother, Incognito was arrested in Scottsdale after making threats at a funeral home where his father's body was being held.
Incognito was signed in May by the Raiders to a one-year deal with Oakland general manager Mike Mayock acknowledging at the time that the offensive lineman could be facing punishment from the league.
The 36-year-old lineman has played for the Rams, the Bills twice and the Dolphins. Incognito was at the center of a 2013 investigation into the bullying of Miami teammate Jonathan Martin, which led to a suspension for Incognito, who did not play football during the 2014 season. He has not played in the NFL since 2017 for Buffalo.
 

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Raiders' Incognito docked 2 games for conduct


Oakland Raiders guard Richie Incognito has been suspended two games for violating the NFL's personal conduct policy.
Incognito is eligible to participate in all practices and preseason games, but can't return to the team's regular season active roster until Sept. 16.
He pleaded guilty in April to two misdemeanors after an incident involving his 90-year-old grandmother that took place in August in Peoria, Arizona.
According to court documents obtained by ESPN, Incognito agreed to plead guilty to charges of criminal damage and disorderly conduct -- both Class 1 misdemeanors in Arizona -- after he punched a fist-sized hole in a wall in the living room and ripped a security system's control box off the wall during an argument with his grandmother at her house on Aug. 19, 2018.
The police report described Incognito as "enraged" and that he blamed his grandmother for the death of his father, which he had announced on Twitter the day before. A domestic violence charge was removed when a plea agreement was reached on April 1.
Incognito was ordered to take 10 weekly anger-management sessions and pay a $569 fine. He also was given one year of unsupervised probation per terms of the agreement. Incognito was ordered to stay away from his grandmother's home, stay on his medication, avoid alcohol, not possess firearms and write a letter of apology.
He also pleaded guilty in April in Scottsdale, Arizona, to a misdemeanor disorderly conduct charge stemming from an arrest in August. Two days after the fight with his grandmother, Incognito was arrested in Scottsdale after making threats at a funeral home where his father's body was being held.
Incognito was signed in May by the Raiders to a one-year deal with Oakland general manager Mike Mayock acknowledging at the time that the offensive lineman could be facing punishment from the league.
The 36-year-old lineman has played for the Rams, the Bills twice and the Dolphins. Incognito was at the center of a 2013 investigation into the bullying of Miami teammate Jonathan Martin, which led to a suspension for Incognito, who did not play football during the 2014 season. He has not played in the NFL since 2017 for Buffalo.
Thank God we have the likes of Incognito to protect our society from the dangerous elements
that most threaten our democratic republic: Emotionally fragile offensive tackles and 90 year old
women.
 
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Good to see the Raiders have some more criminals on their roster like the old days. Probably it makes them better.
 

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I can’t believe they let Incognito back in the league. Oh wait, this is the NFL, of course they did.
 
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I still don’t trust Carr to make a deep play-off push.

Look how cooper went nuts once he had Prescott.

Going to need a qb soon.
 

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I still don’t trust Carr to make a deep play-off push.

Look how cooper went nuts once he had Prescott.

Going to need a qb soon.
Don’t excel to playoffs this year. But like every season, it’s about offensive line play. If he gets that, then he’ll go back to what he was a few season ago. That being said, he had a decent year last season and showed that he can still be the franchise QB.
 

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Raiders pick up G Cooper as Incognito insurance


ALAMEDA, Calif. -- The Oakland Raiders have signed free agent guard Jonathan Cooper.
The team made the move Monday to add a veteran guard after news last week that projected starter Richie Incognito will be suspended for the first two games of the season for violating the league's personal conduct policy.
Cooper was a first-round pick by Arizona in 2013 and has played 46 games over five years with the Cardinals, Cleveland, Dallas and Washington. He played four games for Washington last season after spending the offseason with San Francisco.
The Raiders waived receiver Montay Crockett to make room on the roster for Cooper.
 

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Raiders roster analysis: A position-by-position look at the 90 players arriving for training camp this week


With the Raiders opening training camp on Friday in Napa, here’s a scouting report on all 90 players on their active roster.
Quarterbacks (3)
Derek Carr: When Antonio Brown literally knocked on Carr’s door this offseason, Carr welcomed him with open arms.
Mike Glennon: A tall and lean quarterback who Jon Gruden has always liked since he was on his “Gruden’s QB Camp” TV show in 2013.
Nathan Peterman: Much-criticized former Bill showed nice footwork at minicamp; likely headed to practice squad.
Running backs (7)
Josh Jacobs: Only ran for 100 yards in a game once at Alabama, but Gruden plans to take the training wheels off the first-round pick.
Jalen Richard: Caught 68 passes last season but will be interesting to see his workload with Jacobs and Doug Martin in the mix.
Doug Martin: Martin was almost left behind when he wanted a pay raise, but Isaiah Crowell’s Achilles injury at an offseason workout opened the door again. Gruden has always been a big fan.
Chris Warren III: Big bruiser who looked great in the preseason last year but has not won the coaches’ trust.
DeAndré Washington: Gruden compares him to all the nifty running backs that Patriots have used over the years. But Washington only had 30 carries last season.
Keith Smith: Fullback came up short in a couple of crucial situations early last season, then was barely heard from again. He is a special-teams regular though.
Alec Ingold: Regarded by some as the best fullback in college football last season. Then he wasn’t drafted, which speaks volumes.
(Isaiah Crowell — injured reserve)
Tight ends (6)
Darren Waller: Looks the part of a big playmaker, with a large frame, top-end speed and good hands. Raiders never even tried to re-sign Jared Cook and coaches can’t stop raving about Waller.
Derek Carrier: The Joker. Gruden calls Carrier that because he is a wild card with all the different places he can line up. We’ll see if The Joker is even in the deck this season.
Paul Butler: Former tryout player really bulked up this offseason and has shown an ability to catch the ball in traffic.
Luke Willson: Former Lion can block and catch a little.
Erick Swoope: Former Colt can block and catch a little … especially in the end zone.
Foster Moreau: It might happen sooner rather than later, but this rookie blocker will fill Lee Smith’s shoes.
Receivers (12)
Antonio Brown: One of the league’s best receivers, Brown traveled the world working out and posting the pics and videos on social media.
Tyrell Williams: An interesting add. Williams never really broke through with the Chargers, and the Raiders threw a lot of money at the No. 2 receiver, hoping he is a reliable deep threat that will keep some attention off of Brown.
Ryan Grant: Grant didn’t have a great season with the Colts last year, but he is a solid veteran slot receiver.
Hunter Renfrow: Not big or fast, but Renfrow made a lot of clutch, tough catches at Clemson, and he has shown that same ability to get open just enough in the Raiders’ offseason workouts. In one of our podcasts, Maurice Jones-Drew has Renfrow going for 80 catches in the slot this season.
Dwayne Harris: A roster lock, more for his kick-return skills and special-teams coverage than for his catches.
J.J. Nelson: Speedster only lines up outside, which may make it hard to make this roster.
Marcell Ateman: Can block out defensive backs in the end zone. Will have to show a little more this training camp to punch his ticket again.
Keelan Doss: UC Davis product wasn’t drafted because of concerns about a pectoral injury, but Gruden convinced him to sign with Raiders by telling him he had a great chance to make the team.
Keon Hatcher: A preseason star from a year ago who needs an injury to provide an opening.
Rico Gifford: Practice teamer helped out a lot last year, using his speed to line up at receiver, defensive back and quarterback on the scout team in practice.
Brian Burt: Has the Carr-Fresno State connection.
De’Mornay Pierson-El: From the Alliance of American Football (AAF). His only shot is as a returner.
Offensive linemen (16)
Kolton Miller: To the surprise of some, is staying at left tackle despite the signing of Trent Brown. Put on some more muscle this offseason.
Trent Brown: The 49ers didn’t want to pay him a lot because they were concerned with his weight. All he did was win a ring with the Patriots and cash in with the Raiders. Now the highest-paid tackle in the NFL.
Brandon Parker: The third-round pick a year ago started at right tackle, and the Raiders threw money at Trent Brown. Not a great sign, but Parker has put on 30 good pounds and will be the swing tackle.
David Sharpe: The former staff was intrigued by him, but the new one cut him and brought him back for depth.
Justin Murray: Back of the rotation guy.
Andre James: Undrafted, was teammates with Kolton Miller at UCLA two years ago.
Tyler Roemer: Got kicked out of San Diego State but has the size that OL coaches love. Good project.
Rodney Hudson: Starting center and quiet leader about to get a nice, big contract extension.
Gabe Jackson: Is this the year he makes the Pro Bowl jump?
Richie Incognito (suspended two games): Didn’t play last season but was a Pro Bowler two years ago and blew Raiders coaches away with his tryout. A possible impact addition (at the veteran minimum) and that makes all of the off-field issues a good risk in Gruden’s mind.
Denzelle Good: Went from a possible starter after the draft to invisible at minicamp, with Incognito’s addition plus an undisclosed injury.
Jordan Dewey: The new Jon Feliciano, only better in coaches’ minds. Will back up the guard and center positions.
Jonathan Cooper: Former first-round pick was just signed to see if he can help fill in during the two weeks that Incognito is out.
Denver Kirkland: A survivor. But this could be it.
Lester Cotton: Undrafted rookie from Alabama. The Cooper signing was not a good sign for him.
Lukas McNeil: Undrafted out of Louisville, he is 6-foot-5, 310 pounds and only getting bigger.
Defensive linemen (14)
Clelin Ferrell: The No. 4 overall draft pick is being asked to boost the pass rush. He is stout against the run, but the question will be: Does he have that explosive twitch that other pass rushers the Raiders passed on have?
Josh Mauro: Stanford product also a run-defense guy who looks to start at this point.
Arden Key: Played too much last season, coaches say. Will be in a third-down pass-rushing role and must finish plays better than he did during his rookie season.
Benson Mayowa: The former Raider is back. Had four sacks with the Cardinals last year, and four would have made him a star for the Silver and Black.
Maxx Crosby: His agents sold him as the next Jared Allen. Crosby is raw and needs to get bigger, but the Raiders need to see some of that explosiveness and push this season.
Quinton Bell: Receiver turned pass rusher. Have to imagine the Raiders don’t use seventh-round pick much in preseason and try to stash him on the practice squad.
Alex Barrett: Flashed a little bit in the AAF.
Maurice Hurst: If you are picking the Raiders to make a big jump this season, then Hurst is probably a big reason why. He had some nice moments as a rookie, and has power, footwork, smarts and maturity to make an impact pushing the pocket.
Justin Ellis: Solid.
Johnathan Hankins: Defensive coordinator Paul Guenther really liked the job Hankins did when he came on board last season.
P.J. Hall: The clock has started to tick for the second-round pick of a year ago. You saw some of that low leverage in the preseason last year, but not in the regular season.
Eddie Vanderdoes: Third-round pick from 2017 has always had trouble staying healthy.
Gabe Wright: Practice squad guy last season. That’s about it.
Ronald Ollie: Former TV star from “Last Chance U” may only get one chance at this.
Linebackers (10)
Tahir Whitehead: Played a lot and didn’t do much last season, but maybe that was because of the players around him. We’ll see.
Vontaze Burfict: Guenther pounded the table for him. Can Burfict still pound ball carriers?
Brandon Marshall: The latest veteran LB addition. Las Vegas native is hoping to parlay his one-year deal into playing for Raiders again in his hometown next year.
Marquel Lee: Coaches have tried him at a lot of different spots and weights over the years. Maybe backup is the right role.
Nicholas Morrow: Like Lee, Morrow was asked to start and that may have been asking too much.
James Cowser: Hard worker with a great personality who has been on and off the roster for years.
Jason Cabinda: Guenther was high on him for a couple of weeks last season, but like Lee and Morrow, being a starting LB might just be out of his reach.
Te’von Coney: Coaches got to know undrafted middle linebacker well at the Senior Bowl practices.
Kyle Wilber: Special teams guy actually got some pressure on the QB when he was used as a pass rusher late last season.
Koa Farmer: Rookie Penn State product doesn’t bite on ball fakes. That’s all I got.
Cornerbacks (10)
Gareon Conley: Looks like he is growing into a reliable cornerback. Enjoys the challenge of covering top receivers on an island.
Daryl Worley: Gruden loves his toughness and he seems to have a nose for the football, which is not bad as far as tired clichés go.
Trayvon Mullen: He looks the part. Made a lot of plays at Clemson and will have the opportunity to jump in and do that here.
Nevin Lawson: Former Lion will have the chance to compete for playing time as well.
Isaiah Johnson: Guenther said Johnson has everything you’re looking for (size, speed, good feet and length) in a developmental cornerback
Nick Nelson: Fourth-round pick a year ago is almost an afterthought now.
Dylan Mabin: High-school teammate of Browns standout Denzel Ward.
Keisean Nixon: Slot corner prospect who will have to stand out on special teams.
D.J. Killings: Living on the fringe. Has made training camp or practice-team stops with the Patriots, Eagles, Packers and Colts.
Isaiah Langley: Langley had 105 tackles (79 solo), 13 passes defensed and one interception in four seasons at USC.
Safeties (7)
Lamarcus Joyner: My pick to be one of the defensive leaders, he has already taken Johnathan Abram under his wing. Former Ram will line up more at slot cornerback than safety.
Johnathan Abram: Likes to talk and hit people. A perfect Raiders defensive back.
Karl Joseph: He has worked hard to win over the new staff enough that he is back in the conversation to start after not playing early last season. Playing for a new contract after the Raiders didn’t offer a fifth-year option.
Erik Harris: Gets a little better every season, which is how you get from the CFL to getting a second contract with the Raiders.
Curtis Riley: Could be a nice sleeper. Has appeared in 27 games (16 starts) and had 84 tackles (68 solo), five interceptions (with one returned for a TD) and seven passes defensed in four seasons with the Titans and Giants.
Dallin Leavitt: Special teams is his only ticket.
Jordan Richards: “Everybody you talk to, they rave about it – his communication, his football character, his leadership,” Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said after making Richards a second-round pick in 2015. The Stanford product wasn’t a fit there — recovery speed has been an issue — and he is still looking for a home.
Special teams (5)
Daniel Carlson: Sebastian who?
Johnny Townsend: Really struggled last season, and coaches brought in some competition for the punter it drafted last season.
A.J. Cole: Cole tried out and won a spot. He averaged 43.7 yards per punt at North Carolina State in 2017, and 23 of his 54 kicks stopped inside the 20-yard line
Andrew DePaola: Highest-paid long snapper in league is back from a knee injury.
Trent Sieg: While DePaola was gone, Sieg stepped in and did a great job. For dirt cheap. Should be a good training-camp battle.
 

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Need a Rams thread, a Chiefs thread, and a Broncos thread too.
Ditto.
We have SDRay knowing every Raider player and the practice squad, and. Concudan has the Chuggers player roster
down to third string, Just need someone to do the same for the Chiefs and someone for the Broncos.
I might, in season, be able to study up on the Chiefs but some unrestricted free fantasy players out there
would be ideal.
 
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Ditto.
We have SDRay knowing every Raider player and the practice squad, and. Concudan has the Chuggers player roster
down to third string, Just need someone to do the same for the Chiefs and someone for the Broncos.
I might, in season, be able to study up on the Chiefs but some unrestricted free fantasy players out there
would be ideal.
That's a great idea.
 

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How this Raiders camp feels like 2016, and 14 other early camp impression

Hunter Renfrow stayed in bed Wednesday morning. It was the first day off at Raiders training camp, even though players still had some meetings to attend. The first five days of camp were interesting, if not super eventful, and set the bar for optimism pretty high.
All of the 12 NFL training camps I have covered have been extremely positive the first week of camp, and then the realizations start to hit that teams still have major holes or that a free agent was “free” for a reason or that a rookie pick was more of a project than a plug-in. But we’re not there yet. The Raiders are off to a good start, and here are 15 observations (that I haven’t already written about) from Napa:
1. This camp reminds me of 2016, the Raiders’ only playoff season in a long, long time.
That year, the Raiders signed Kelechi Osemele and people screamed at how much money they gave him to play guard. Osemele came into camp, wanted to fight everyone, pancaked defensive linemen and gave the team a nastiness they hadn’t had previously. The offensive line also got great seasons out of Rodney Hudson and Donald Penn and became the backbone of that team.
The experts had panic attacks this offseason when Jon Gruden and Mike Mayock gave Trent Brown a record deal and put him at right tackle, not left. Well, the 6-foot-9, 385-pound Brown has been a standout, and we’re not talking about how he makes 335-pound guard Gabe Jackson look small next to him. Brown has destroyed defensive linemen in 1-on-1 drills and scrimmages. Every time I see Gruden or offensive coordinator Greg Olson, they say, “Did you see Trent today?” And then chuckle.
Brown doesn’t necessarily have Osemele’s mean streak. He is more like a moving wall, annoyed that you are trying to get around him. Brown is a quiet, efficient killer, and will only flatten his Raiders teammates as a reminder that he can.
The Raiders admittedly blew away the market to make sure they got Brown to sign, and they have no buyer’s remorse.
2. First-round pick Clelin Ferrell has had some good battles with left tackle Kolton Miller.
Miller has won the most of them, which he should at this point. He was a first-round pick in 2018 with a year of experience going up against the rookie Ferrell.
Derek Carr paid Ferrell a compliment the other day, saying how Ferrell was one of the first players out on the practice field every day and how great his effort is. I tuned him out. When it comes to the No. 4 overall pick in the draft, I am not trying to hear about effort. I need to see the quick-twitch, the burst, the obvious impact potential.
The Raiders need Ferrell and rookie Maxx Crosby to give the pass rush a boost. Now. So watching Ferrell battle Miller the next two weeks will be a good indicator.
“Kolton is going to be a really, really good player,” Ferrell said on Monday, “and not even just him, but going against that offensive line. That’s the biggest o-line in football, period. … Going against somebody like Kolton every day is only going to make me better. It’s exciting. Y’all seen us after practice, we are just talking it up, trying to learn things about each other, so I can’t wait to just continue that and it’s only going to make me better.”
3. One of my favorite moments of the week was when Miller gave reporters a long, blank stare.
Richie Incognito had said a day before that he wants to bring out Miller’s nasty side. Reporters were trying to follow up and they asked Miller if he has been, in fact, too nice. “You want me to answer that?” Miller finally said.
Nah. Just be yourself.
4. Marshawn Lynch took it to another level last year, when he had his personal video team at training camp and would walk over and talk to them in the middle of practice. Antonio Brown apparently wasn’t impressed. He has become the first Raiders player to have his kids on the sideline during practice.
But Lynch produced when he played last season and Brown gave a tease on Tuesday about what he can do on the field when he beat several defensive backs during the 30 minutes he practiced. Gruden seemingly gives one player a year a pass to do whatever he wants, and Brown’s new teammates are embracing him in the same way they did Lynch.
5. The Raiders look good. Like in really good shape.
Vontaze Burfict is regarded as an old, broken-down player by many critics around the league, but he came into camp ready to go. He is still only 28 and looks rejuvenated. Defensive tackles Jonathan Hankins and Justin Ellis also look leaner than their listed 340 and 350 pounds, respectively.
“(Ellis has) had a great spring. He looks like a different guy,” defensive coordinator Paul Guenther said. “He’s had a really good spring. He’s started off strong here in training camp and I hope he keeps ascending.”
Last year, Gruden made so much fuss about new strength coach Tom Shaw and then they had a falling out and poof. Former USA weightlifting coach and 49ers and Raiders assistant A.J. Neibel has quietly come in and had a nice start.
6. Gareon Conley has had some really good and some really bad moments at camp, but as he said, the 2017 first-round pick just made it through a week of camp healthy for the first time.
So the cornerback is happy, especially to be going against Antonio Brown in practice.
“Every time I get a chance to go, I’m going to try to go against him,” Conley said, “and always ask him questions about when he breaks, what he’s doing at the line, down the field, how he plays against (cornerbacks). It’s going to make me better.”
7. Conley spoke to reporters on Tuesday and he seemed to enjoy it a tiny bit more — like maybe up from zero percent his rookie year to about 20 percent now.
Even Gruden said that Conley is a hard guy to get to know.
“Gareon is more of a day-to-day, to-himself guy,” Gruden said. “I try to get Gareon to take the hood off, so I can find out where he is. He wears that hood all the time, but he’s a private person really for the most part and that’s fine with me. … We want him to be healthy and if he is out there every day, he’s got a chance, I think, to be an excellent football player.”
Conley was later asked what he would say if he ever took the hood off.
He smiled and said, “It probably won’t happen.”
8. Renfrow, the rookie out of Clemson, has dusted veteran Ryan Grant out of the starting gate in the slot receiver competition. But don’t be surprised if you see a lot of Brown in the slot with Tyrell Williams and speed demon J.J. Nelson outside.
9. Carr was on the NFL Network with his brother, David, joking about how the Raiders have so much talent at receiver and nothing inside.

Sorry guys, tight end Darren Waller will no longer be a secret when “Hard Knocks” airs next Tuesday. And I think many fantasy football types already had the athletic freak targeted as a sleeper for their drafts.
10. It does indeed look like Josh Mauro will be in the starting base defense at end opposite Ferrell.
The Stanford product started 30 games for the Arizona Cardinals and New York Giants, and while he hasn’t blown me away so far, he is versatile. Mauro has lined up at tackle often this week and could be there on passing downs.
Guenther is planning to rotate his defensive linemen a lot this year.
“What it does, when you have a base line and you have a nickel line … last year we had a base line and a nickel line and they were the same guys,” Guenther said. “So you get guys who can roll off the bench and come in fresh you know, 25 or 30 snaps a game and give you heat where they aren’t playing first, second and third down. The more guys, you can have a wave of rushers and the better off you’re going to be.”
11. Defensive tackle Eddie Vanderdoes needed a great camp, I thought, to beat out P.J. Hall and make the roster, and things got off to bad start when he sustained a concussion on the second day of practice.
The Raiders have since signed veteran tackle Ethan Westbrooks, and Vanderdoes, a 2017 third-round pick, just fell down a notch.
12. I have made it the first five days without asking a player or coach about “Hard Knocks.”
The way I see it, if someone puts his or her shoes on your sofa, you don’t ask what kind of shoes they’re wearing. The crew is not thatobtrusive, actually. I have noticed all of the boom mikes more than the TV cameras. Everybody is definitely more wary of speaking freely. Some players and team officials even swear the practice field is bugged.
The boom mike guys walk five feet behind players and lean the overheard mike forward. I have seen Antonio Brown twice walking and talking to someone and look up and see the mike. Each time, he politely turned around and asked the boom mike guy to take a break. The boom mike guy looked surprised. “Who, me? Oh, my bad.”
The show is not as spontaneous as I thought as a viewer, with five players a day miked up for practice, and producers planning and carrying out storylines. But the players have embraced it. So far.
13. New deal: We will stop asking about Arden Key’s weight if Raiders people stop volunteering that he is getting bigger.
Mayock did it the other day, and I just don’t see it. If Key can get home to the quarterback at 240 pounds in his reduced role as a situational pass rusher, then who cares what he weighs.
14. First-round pick Josh Jacobs has shown great hands, but Doug Martin has been the most impressive runner the first week.
That’s a compliment to Martin. And it’s the veteran, not the rookie, who finishes all of his runs by going all the way to the end zone.
15. Kicker Eddy Piñeiro recently told Chicago reporters that the Raiders “gave him up for pennies.”
And that’s OK, because Daniel Carlson, who took job last season and ran away with it, still looks like a million bucks.
 

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21 was a hell of a receiver.....caused the bolts tremendous headaches for years. RIP.
 
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Cliff Branch was awesome....and I will never think of the Raiders as the Raiders without being in Oakland.

The Raiders are the Raiders of Oakland, not a “world wide brand” to me.

Are the Titans anything like the Oilers of old? Are the Indy Colts anything like the old Baltimore Colts?

The Raiders of Las Vegas will soon be more Vegas than Oakland. The 'team name’ is no longer revelant.

The Chargers are hated because they want to be the San Diego Chargers of Los Angeles....and they are neither.

Broncos = Denver. Bears = Chicago.

But the new corporation approach says, simply reverse the color scheme on the new cans. Folks will still love it.
 
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Cliff Branch was awesome....and I will never think of the Raiders as the Raiders without being in Oakland.

The Raiders are the Raiders of Oakland, not a “world wide brand” to me.

Are the Titans anything like the Oilers of old? Are the Indy Colts anything like the old Baltimore Colts?

The Raiders of Las Vegas will soon be more Vegas than Oakland. The 'team name’ is no longer revelant.

The Chargers are hated because they want to the San Diego Chargers of Los Angeles....and they are neither.

Broncos = Denver. Bears = Chicago.

But the new corporation approach says, simply reverse the color scheme on the new cans. Folks will still love it.
Relocation sucks. Especially for Oakland who has now lost the Raiders twice. Still, their fan base will continue to thrive if now get stronger because of their global brand. Something team Spanos will never have.
 

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Relocation sucks. Especially for Oakland who has now lost the Raiders twice. Still, their fan base will continue to thrive if now get stronger because of their global brand. Something team Spanos will never have.

The City made them tougher. Even in LA, you felt it was an Oakland city gameday.

No longer. Expect the twinkling lights, magic tricks, aerial circus, and buffet dinners.

The kickur ass Raiders are dead. Murdered by the League.
 

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Allegiant, Raiders Officially Sign Deal For Stadium Naming Rights


August 6, 2019

Allegiant secured the stadium's naming rights after the Raiders had months of talks with various companies
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Allegiant Airlines "bought the naming rights" for the Raiders' new stadium, which had "simply been called the Las Vegas Stadium," according to Justin Emerson of the LAS VEGAS SUN. In addition to Allegiant Stadium, the Raiders and the airline are "teaming up to reward customers and fans" with promotions such as the Allegiant Connection of the Game, "linking a lucky fan to their favorite Raiders player, and an opportunity to win Fan Traveler of the Year honors" (LAS VEGAS SUN, 8/6). In Las Vegas, Alan Snel reported the "annual value of the deal" is less than $20M. Raiders Owner Mark Davis said Allegiant Chair & CEO Maury Gallagher is "somebody I'd like to work with for the next 30 years." UFC COO Lawrence Epstein said that the new stadium's schedule once it opens next year "will include at least one annual UFC event in addition to ten Raiders games and six UNLV football contests." Epstein: "When you get close to the stadium, the scale of it blows you away" (LVSPORTSBIZ.com, 8/5). Legends Global Partnerships represented the Raiders in securing the deal (THE DAILY).
CASH COW: In Las Vegas, Richard Velotta in a front-page cited sources as saying that Allegiant is "likely paying" between $20-25M in "cash and in-kind services a year to put its name on the building." Allegiant secured the rights after the Raiders had "months of talks with various companies," including resort companies that Raiders President Marc Badain "would not name." Badain said Allegiant "stepped up a while ago and expressed interest" in the stadium's naming rights (LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL, 8/6). Badain also said that with Allegiant "continuously gaining ground on its competitors in the air space," entering into this deal will "help take Allegiant to the next level." In Las Vegas, Mick Akers notes talks for the naming-rights deal "began nine months ago" (LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL, 8/6). YAHOO SPORTS' Frank Schwab wrote the Raiders' new stadium will be "quite a financial boon for the franchise." The Raiders will go from "one of the worst stadium situations in the NFL in Oakland, to perhaps one of the best" (SPORTS.YAHOO.com, 8/5).
 

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YAHOO SPORTS' Frank Schwab wrote the Raiders' new stadium will be "quite a financial boon for the franchise." The Raiders will go from "one of the worst stadium situations in the NFL in Oakland, to perhaps one of the best" (SPORTS.YAHOO.com, 8/5).


And those skull wearing barbed painted faces Raider fans long years in the Black Hole. ..get their share.

Nothing.

But if they can up with $3,900, we can talk.

 
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YAHOO SPORTS' Frank Schwab wrote the Raiders' new stadium will be "quite a financial boon for the franchise." The Raiders will go from "one of the worst stadium situations in the NFL in Oakland, to perhaps one of the best" (SPORTS.YAHOO.com, 8/5).


And those skull wearing barbed painted faces Raider fans long years in the Black Hole. ..get their share.

Nothing.

But if they can up with $3,900, we can talk.

Anyone who buys a PSL is a sucka.
 
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Anyone who buys a PSL is a sucka.
yup, with that financial structure it pretty much prices out 90-99% of former fans , it's what happened with the Niners and the old Candlestick faithful. Sad.