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Raiders game reveals depth of anti-Spanos sentiment for S.D. Chargers fans

SDRay

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Loren and I featured in the article.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...to-whip-their-former-team-20171011-story.html

By Tom Krasovic

The opponent this week is the Oakland Raiders.

The despised, detested and damnable Raiders who for decades raised the bile levels of an entire Chargers fan base.

So, it stands to reason that Sunday’s game in Oakland will be the litmus test of litmus tests for longtime Chargers fans who’d sworn off the club when it was relocated to Los Angeles this year.

Could these folks actually cheer for the noxious Silver & Black to defeat the lightning-bolt team?

Answer: Give them a pirate’s eye patch, a buccaneer’s bandana and a tankard of rum. Welcome aboard, matey!

“All the former Chargers fans that I’m around,” San Diegan Ray Chan was saying Wednesday, “they’re looking forward to the Raiders beating the Chargers. There’s no allegiance to the Chargers.”

Loren Casuto seconded Chan’s temperature reading, while acknowledging that neither he nor his friend could’ve envisaged this outcome during the 12 years they produced a Chargers fan podcast, BoltTalk.

“Thank Dean Spanos,” Casuto said. “He turned a man who could never fathom rooting for the Raiders in any capacity into someone who hopes that the Raiders legitimately destroy the Chargers.”

Chan was a Chargers fan for 37 years. He agonized through defeats at the hands of the Raiders, either in person or via digital recordings. He reveled in a long string of Chargers victories over Oakland during LaDainian Tomlinson’s run with San Diego.

Like a man who’s discovered he suddenly enjoys supping on liver and onions, he reconciled cheering for the Raiders in this special instance Sunday.

“I can differentiate between the San Diego Chargers and what this anomaly is right now,” he said of the L.A. Chargers*. “It’s not the same thing. The San Diego Chargers with Dan Fouts and Wes Chandler and John Jefferson — all those guys, Stan Humphries — that is a different team. That is completely different in my mind.”

Though they watch far less of the NFL nowadays (while also opting for San Diego State football games), the two former Bolts diehards have crafted a version of “Heads, I Win; Tails, You Lose” when it comes to their former favorite team’s games.

Chan — an information technology expert — acknowledged L.A. (1-4) might beat the quarterback-challenged Raiders (2-3) this week, but he’s built in a firewall to ensure a pleasing reaction for himself.

“Look, they’re gonna win some games,” he said of Dean’s employees. “And, if they win themselves into a spot where they’re not drafting one of the top-2 quarterbacks for the 2018 draft, that’s another win for San Diego.”

An attorney, Casuto drew upon the fact that L.A. is an extreme long shot to reach the Super Bowl tournament, and the Raiders are to be relocated to Las Vegas in 2020.

“If that’s the case,” he said of Team Spanos winning Sunday, “I think both Las Vegas and Los Angeles are going to be watching this game and wondering why, of all teams, they’ve got these two.”

As for the rematch in the season finale, Dec. 31 at Carson, the two former Bolts fans would gladly toast a Raiders victory to ring in 2018.

But, Casuto won’t be making the 180-mile round trip to join in with Raiders partisans.

“I couldn’t fathom giving Dean Spanos any more of my money,” he said.
 

Gill Man

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Outstanding article, good on ya Ray! Fully concur......I'm hoping the Raiders destroy the Chargers Sunday. I cannot pull for Spanos any more.....not even the players who play for him or are employed by him because that is still supporting Spanos.
In all my 56 years of watching and cheering for the Bolts I'd NEVER have cheered for the Raiders in ANY game other than if they were determining whether our SAN DIEGO Chargers would make the playoffs or have a better seed in the playoffs. That was IT and even then I'd have a bitter taste in my mouth for pulling for them to win.

Now is totally different. ANY team the Bolts play on any given day I will root for, other than if it comes down to the end of the season, the Bolts are out of it, and I'd like them to get a worse draft pick.

My how one dumbass owner can change the dynamics of a huge portion of his FORMER fan base.

GO RAIDERS, Beat Spanos!!!!!!
 

Harryo the K

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Outstanding article, good on ya Ray! Fully concur......I'm hoping the Raiders destroy the Chargers Sunday. I cannot pull for Spanos any more.....not even the players who play for him or are employed by him because that is still supporting Spanos.
In all my 56 years of watching and cheering for the Bolts I'd NEVER have cheered for the Raiders in ANY game other than if they were determining whether our SAN DIEGO Chargers would make the playoffs or have a better seed in the playoffs. That was IT and even then I'd have a bitter taste in my mouth for pulling for them to win.

Now is totally different. ANY team the Bolts play on any given day I will root for, other than if it comes down to the end of the season, the Bolts are out of it, and I'd like them to get a worse draft pick.

My how one dumbass owner can change the dynamics of a huge portion of his FORMER fan base.

GO RAIDERS, Beat Spanos!!!!!!
Might have to move the game. Not a bad idea. To the coliseum!
 

wrbanwal

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the spanni have been prepping us for years. It might be that fact alone that is making the transition into a hater all the more tolerable
 
#8
I'm offended my user name was not mentioned, but good article. :D I can't think of one die hard SD Chargers fan whose opinion differs from this article.
 
#9
Almost wish I still lived in the Bay Area. I could go to the colloseum this time and not worry about getting beer "spilled" on me.

Be a trip to be cheering for the raiders.
 

Drunk

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#11
Nice.

I’d also like to thank Bolt talk for letting S.D. fans express themselves freely. As opposed to the official spanos boot licking forums with their lightning nazi moderators banning posters at will
 

Harryo the K

Well-Known Member
#12
Nice.

I’d also like to thank Bolt talk for letting S.D. fans express themselves freely. As opposed to the official spanos boot licking forums with their lightning nazi moderators banning posters at will
You have been noticed and put on the list. Heretical opinions are to be eliminated.
You should love your selected owners, lack of love is unreasonable. Offsides is a penalty in the Blessed Fotum.
You are Drunk.
:rolleyes:
 

Nomad

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I was banned from the "official" forum. I don't think I will ever go back, even though I have thought about creating a number of member IDs and causing as much crap as can. Attack the Spanii relentlessly.
 
#15
Nice.

I’d also like to thank Bolt talk for letting S.D. fans express themselves freely. As opposed to the official spanos boot licking forums with their lightning nazi moderators banning posters at will
If not for this forum it would be hard to stay organized in all the national negative press, go to safe havens like thepowderdorks.com or chargers forum, none of these articles on there.
 

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