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if this dude didnt play for the yankees, he would be out of a job and in jail.

how nice that he was able refuse to talk about the imcident. Sports figures shouldnt be able to hide behind the bramd.
 

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I read his remarks. He was obvisouly told by the owner to cut salary.

he was asked a question about players learning english so he answered.

His comment about the japanese pitcher shows how cheap he is. Seattle wanted to pay for an asain scout and this dude needs an intepreter. The intepreter would cost 75k. To me, pay the money. seattle refused and his remarks suggesting about that the japanese pither language skills getting better when they refused to pay made him look like an idiot not a racist. big difference.

his comment about the spanish player was answering comments about language skills. once again, poor choice of words but he answered the question.

in comparision if i were asked anout my soanish speaking slills i would say they our terriblebut I am working on them.

my big takeaway that the seattle owners are cheap and this dudes job was to cut payroll.

his comments about players language skills were stupid, not racist.
you know, i didn't read, nor was interested in the article and the fallout. But I would bet your take is the correct one. This society right now is supercharged with overreaction to ANYTHING and EVERYTHING.......i have no idea how flagrant he was, but my suspicion is it was borderline and the media and most cancel folks are blowing it way up out of proportion. They do that. It's their game right now. It's political nonsenese and destroying the country. JMHO. This post should probably end up in the political forum. Let me know if you all think it should. Just stating an opinion not based on research or actually reading the story. And why did I not bother reading? Because I'm tired as shit about hearing about that stuff,,,,it's all over the news 24/7 and even in sports andanything else. WTF man. Settle the fuck down world!!!! Another day , another stupid fucking story with the same talking heads on both sides. GTFO assholes.
 
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you know, i didn't read, nor was interested in the article and the fallout. But I would bet your take is the correct one. This society right now is supercharged with overreaction to ANYTHING and EVERYTHING.......i have no idea how flagrant he was, but my suspicion is it was borderline and the media and most cancel folks are blowing it way up out of proportion. They do that. It's their game right now. It's political nonsenese and destroying the country. JMHO. This post should probably end up in the political forum. Let me know if you all think it should. Just stating an opinion not based on research or actually reading the story. And why did I not bother reading? Because I'm tired as shit about hearing about that stuff,,,,it's all over the news 24/7 and even in sports andanything else. WTF man. Settle the fuck down world!!!! Another day , another stupid fucking story with the same talking heads on both sides. GTFO assholes.
This should not be moved to the political forum. This is a baseball story and the furor he caused was more than the disparaging remarks he made towards the international players, he also openly admitted he was manipulating some players to milk service time - not against the rules but a shortsighted and ignorant thing to say (imagine Preller saying this about Tatis). He also called Kyle Seager overpaid - gee, who signed off on that Mr. CEO? Additionally the article points out he lied about a certain event, which put one of his players in an unfavorable light. Not to mention he’s been accused of sexual harassment in the past so he had all this baggage to begin with. This isn’t a political post, it’s a story about the firing of a baseball exec and the reasons why (actually he resigned before they could fire him) - the guy had diarrhea of the mouth. If it’s “political” in any way I respectfully submit its FB’s comment that is political, he cherry picked a sore spot and commented on that but left out the other stupid things the CEO said - that said I don’t think his post should be banished over there either as it’s a legit take on this news story.
 
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I read his remarks. He was obvisouly told by the owner to cut salary.

he was asked a question about players learning english so he answered.

His comment about the japanese pitcher shows how cheap he is. Seattle wanted to pay for an asain scout and this dude needs an intepreter. The intepreter would cost 75k. To me, pay the money. seattle refused and his remarks suggesting about that the japanese pither language skills getting better when they refused to pay made him look like an idiot not a racist. big difference.

his comment about the spanish player was answering comments about language skills. once again, poor choice of words but he answered the question.

in comparision if i were asked anout my soanish speaking slills i would say they our terriblebut I am working on them.

my big takeaway that the seattle owners are cheap and this dudes job was to cut payroll.

his comments about players language skills were stupid, not racist.
The big takeaway is the CEO of an organization shouldn’t be publicly disparaging his employees in any way in any public forum. If his job was to cut salary, just do it professionally. He was already skating on thin ice. You’re right, it was stupidity and they were completely justified firing him for those stupid comments.
 
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The big takeaway is the CEO of an organization shouldn’t be publicly disparaging his employees in any way in any public forum. If his job was to cut salary, just do it professionally. He was already skating on thin ice. You’re right, it was stupidity and they were completely justified firing him for those stupid comments.
Yep, just be straightforward. Fry's announced yesterday that they were going out of business and used COVID as the reason why, which is complete BS and everyone sees right through it. It was obvious that they were dying before the pandemic and it was just a matter of time. The execs just didn't want to accept the failure of the company and saw it as the perfect excuse to not accept responsiblity.

If you need to cut costs, then just say it. I don't think that's the case though. I think they just want to be cheap. But there's no need to disparage a foreign player's English skills. It comes off as very insensitive and tone deaf but that seems to be par for the course for that guy. I'd want to distance my organization from him as well.
 
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Yep, just be straightforward. Fry's announced yesterday that they were going out of business and used COVID as the reason why, which is complete BS and everyone sees right through it.
If my experience with Fry's is at all representative, frustrated customers deep in the "Returns" line,
will not reach the counter to find out about this, until ~early September...
 

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The big takeaway is the CEO of an organization shouldn’t be publicly disparaging his employees in any way in any public forum. If his job was to cut salary, just do it professionally. He was already skating on thin ice. You’re right, it was stupidity and they were completely justified firing him for those stupid comments.
I agree wirh all of us.

The service time will be a huge sticking point goimg forward. Teams have taken advantage of that for years
 
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The big takeaway is the CEO of an organization shouldn’t be publicly disparaging his employees in any way in any public forum. If his job was to cut salary, just do it professionally. He was already skating on thin ice. You’re right, it was stupidity and they were completely justified firing him for those stupid comments.
you mean like Ray Kroc?:roflmao:
 

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you mean like Ray Kroc?:roflmao:
In Kroc’s defense he was apologizing to the fans for the shitty product they paid to see. He didn’t lie and he didn’t name anyone specifically, and if you asked the players they probably would agree if they’re honest.

You think any of the players Mather called out agrees with what he said? Or any of it is actually fair or truthful?
 

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In Kroc’s defense he was apologizing to the fans for the shitty product they paid to see. He didn’t lie and he didn’t name anyone specifically, and if you asked the players they probably would agree if they’re honest.

You think any of the players Mather called out agrees with what he said? Or any of it is actually fair or truthful?
No I know Fender, different situation, I just was reminded about Ray Krocks hilarious incident when you brought that up. That was epic. Don't know about the details of Mather but yeah sounds like a whole different deal for sure. Not meant to slight your take in any way bro. :tup:
 

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Actually the seattle guy reminded me of the padre gm who flipped off the fans. Forgot the dudes name. Goes to show you that useful idiots dont have a glass cieling.
 

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Yu be Yu.
 
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Chris Paddack -- RHP, Padres
Key number: .204 BA allowed on fastballs in 2019
As a rookie in 2019, Paddack backed up his swagger with results, posting a 3.33 ERA over 26 starts, despite his limited repertoire. (He threw about 90% four-seamers and changeups, with an occasional curveball that didn’t miss many bats). Paddack tried to diversify in ‘20, introducing a cutter, but the pitch was unsuccessful. At the same time, his four-seamer suffered, losing its vertical movement (“rise”) as Paddack was unable to command it at the top of the zone with the same efficiency. In 2019, opponents hit .204 and slugged .391 against the four-seamer; in ‘20, that rose to .308/.658, with a 3.4 mph jump in average exit velocity.
In the span of a year, Paddack has gone from the Padres’ Opening Day starter to something of an afterthought behind three new acquisitions (Yu Darvish, Blake Snell, Joe Musgrove), a 2020 Cy Young contender (Dinelson Lamet) and even rising top prospects such as Mackenzie Gore. But there’s still a lot to like about the ultra-competitive Paddack, who even last year boasted one of the lowest walk rates in MLB. If the 25-year-old finally finds that third pitch, the results could be spectacular, but even just rediscovering his four-seamercommand would work wonders.
 

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Chris Paddack -- RHP, Padres
Key number: .204 BA allowed on fastballs in 2019
As a rookie in 2019, Paddack backed up his swagger with results, posting a 3.33 ERA over 26 starts, despite his limited repertoire. (He threw about 90% four-seamers and changeups, with an occasional curveball that didn’t miss many bats). Paddack tried to diversify in ‘20, introducing a cutter, but the pitch was unsuccessful. At the same time, his four-seamer suffered, losing its vertical movement (“rise”) as Paddack was unable to command it at the top of the zone with the same efficiency. In 2019, opponents hit .204 and slugged .391 against the four-seamer; in ‘20, that rose to .308/.658, with a 3.4 mph jump in average exit velocity.
In the span of a year, Paddack has gone from the Padres’ Opening Day starter to something of an afterthought behind three new acquisitions (Yu Darvish, Blake Snell, Joe Musgrove), a 2020 Cy Young contender (Dinelson Lamet) and even rising top prospects such as Mackenzie Gore. But there’s still a lot to like about the ultra-competitive Paddack, who even last year boasted one of the lowest walk rates in MLB. If the 25-year-old finally finds that third pitch, the results could be spectacular, but even just rediscovering his four-seamercommand would work wonders.
great find fender.
 

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Yu be Yu.
This is good. Like let Snell be Snell. Just pray the dont let Tingler be Tingler:laugh::laugh:
 
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Posted in the wrong Padres thread. Doh!
Yeah Paddack belongs in cold freezer thread driving a Zamboni, at least based on 2020. But sure hope he is one of the bounce back guys. Liked the part about him just finding that elusive pitch could make the results spectacular. They forgut to mention the biggest impediment to his comeback is not losing the stirrups, white sox, and white shoes.
 

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So how old do you think Pujols is? One thing that bothers me though, if you’re gonna come out and make an accusation like this, at least go all the way and say what age you think he is. This Marlins guy sounds very confident even including they have the numbers.
 

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I don't understand which thread is for what now so I'll put this here. ;)

It's from when Tatis' deal was signed a little while back but there's some good analysis of how they think the Padres payroll will work in the coming years. It's going to come down but also if they can (and should) be able to fill up the stadium once things get more back to normal, that extra attendance should be able to support the current payroll they're at.

 

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This thread is for Padres 2021 hot stove stuff, I mistakenly posted the Snell thing here.
 

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I don't understand which thread is for what now so I'll put this here. ;)

It's from when Tatis' deal was signed a little while back but there's some good analysis of how they think the Padres payroll will work in the coming years. It's going to come down but also if they can (and should) be able to fill up the stadium once things get more back to normal, that extra attendance should be able to support the current payroll they're at.

Great find! I found the projected rosters interesting. Especially no Lamet in 2023.

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I don't understand which thread is for what now so I'll put this here. ;)

It's from when Tatis' deal was signed a little while back but there's some good analysis of how they think the Padres payroll will work in the coming years. It's going to come down but also if they can (and should) be able to fill up the stadium once things get more back to normal, that extra attendance should be able to support the current payroll they're at.

Let's hope so!

San Diego is starved for a winner!
 

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Great find! I found the projected rosters interesting. Especially no Lamet in 2023.

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Yeah I noticed that immediately when I was watching. Where is Lament?

I really hope Campusano is the real deal. We've been searching so long for a good all-around catcher.

Also no Cronenworth and I thought I was familiar with all the top prospects but I had no idea who Robert Hassell III is.

 

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Yeah I noticed that immediately when I was watching. Where is Lament?

I really hope Campusano is the real deal. We've been searching so long for a good all-around catcher.

Also no Cronenworth and I thought I was familiar with all the top prospects but I had no idea who Robert Hassell III is.

Yeah, already slugging HRs. Hope he’s for real. Hot talent lava!
 
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lamet is 28. He would have to fantastic year to stay on the team.

also, i would replace dh with util.
yeah, if he were 28 and w/o the elbow history it might be a different story...the guy is our best pitcher.....he's someone who is a true ace. But hard to get around the risk of reinjury.