Marty Considering the Wishbone??

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From USA Today Inside Slant 10-12-06

—WR Eric Parker's five catches on Sunday were impressive in that each resulted in a first down and three came on third-down plays.

BY THE NUMBERS: 1 — Number of times the Chargers (3-1) have finished the first quarter of their season with three-or-more wins since 2002.

QUOTE TO NOTE: "If we go to the wishbone we would be hell on wheels." — Coach Marty Schottenheimer, on the Chargers' powerful backfield of running backs LaDainian Tomlinson and Michael Turner and fullback Lorenzo Neal.
I wonder if that is just off the cuff or if they are actually considering this...

Eric Parker continues to be a first down machine...
 
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turbo_turtle

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T. N. T.

Enough said!

This time I would have to agree this time with marty if he uses it.
 

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If we get out to a big lead, I'd love to see some them open up some of these trickier plays and see how they work out. So we don't have to try them later on in the season when we really need them to work.

You now what else I'd like to see? I'd like to see them actually run a reverse instead of faking it like 40 times. How are defenses going to respect the fake if we never run the damn thing!
 

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I love how you guys that whine about Martyball don't seem to be bothered by the idea of the wishbone. :lol:

The wishbone is not an NFL offense. There's a reason people don't run it in the pros. Does anyone even run it in college anymore?
 

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boltssbbound said:
I love how you guys that whine about Martyball don't seem to be bothered by the idea of the wishbone. :lol:

The wishbone is not an NFL offense. There's a reason people don't run it in the pros. Does anyone even run it in college anymore?
I've seen variations of the Veer, which the Wishbone is.
 

turbo_turtle

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BFISA said:
I've seen variations of the Veer, which the Wishbone is.
I am going to Piggy back here.

College teams that are an option system use the Veer system which is the Wishbone formation.
 

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boltssbbound said:
I love how you guys that whine about Martyball don't seem to be bothered by the idea of the wishbone. :lol:

The wishbone is not an NFL offense. There's a reason people don't run it in the pros. Does anyone even run it in college anymore?
Don Coryell flashed it for a few plays. It was hilarious because it caught the team we faced off guard.

The defenses started blowing it up real quick so Coryell said - "no mas" basically.
 

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I don't think we should go to a wishbone, but I wouldn't mind running a couple of read options for rivers.

Have LT and MT in the backfield and have Rivers read up the mddle or pitch out, I think we know which back would do which. Oh yeah, always hold it out for up the middle, much like Vick does for Dunn, but instead of Rivers running like Vick, pitch it out to LT.
 

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bigcarson50 said:
I don't think we should go to a wishbone, but I wouldn't mind running a couple of read options for rivers.

Have LT and MT in the backfield and have Rivers read up the mddle or pitch out, I think we know which back would do which. Oh yeah, always hold it out for up the middle, much like Vick does for Dunn, but instead of Rivers running like Vick, pitch it out to LT.
All this wishbone talk needs to be held in "reserve".

Those are plays we pull out when needed later in the season or against teams like Denver.

If there is no need to flash shit from deep in the bowels of the playbook ............. why ?
 

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Trumpet_Man said:
All this wishbone talk needs to be held in "reserve".

Those are plays we pull out when needed later in the season or against teams like Denver.

If there is no need to flash shit from deep in the bowels of the playbook ............. why ?
good point.
 

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bigcarson50 said:
good point.
Check this out...Troy Vincent just got released. I am wondering if AJ want to take a peek for insurance (rent a vet).

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=2622949

Bills waive S Vincent

SportsTicker
National Football League News Wire

ORCHARD PARK, New York - Troy Vincent's 15-year NFL
career may be over.

Already on injured reserve, the veteran safety was waived by the
Buffalo Bills on Thursday.
 

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wishbones a perfect formation to run with our skill players. not only would you create mass confusion on the part of the defense but you can also go to one of your big te's through the air. then what happens when we line up in singleback...weve got to be throwing right? WRONG.
 

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!~BOLT~! said:
im not saying all the time, but every game we should see some version of this big power backfield.
It is easily blown up and this is why you do not see it in the pros.
 

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i agree its exploited and can be attacked by an assortment of different blitz schemes, but if any team i can remember in my 27 year viewing career can do it i'd say the 06 chargers can take advantage of the confusing alignments. perhaps thats why we see motion from flanker every time they set up in it. point is, anything that can confuse d coor. is great for marty. if he wasnt so damn predictable maybe he'd already have a ring or two.
 

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i wouldnt mind seeing that play ran once in garbage time when we have a healthy lead w/some backup RB Turner+Manu and Oneal

or just run it w/Whitehurst ?:lol:
 

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boltssbbound said:
I love how you guys that whine about Martyball don't seem to be bothered by the idea of the wishbone. :lol:

The wishbone is not an NFL offense. There's a reason people don't run it in the pros. Does anyone even run it in college anymore?
Navy runs it
 

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Trumpet_Man said:
It is easily blown up and this is why you do not see it in the pros.
The reason you dont see it in the pros is because running QB's usually arent good passers( see Vick). Randall Cunningham was but you dont want your QB getting hit all the time in that offense and you need a good running QB to run it really well.
But a couple of looks and plays from that formation would be great to see...and funny imo.
 

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Boltjolt said:
It'll never happen. Never has in the NFL...but i wouldnt mind them installing a couple of plays from that formation ;)
Coryell ran it for a few plays.
 

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I thought you were talking about the salad dressing.:bolt: :icon_tease:
 

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Trumpet_Man said:
It is easily blown up and this is why you do not see it in the pros.
Only with a "Gap 8, Okie" type defense.
 

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Trumpet_Man said:
Coryell ran it for a few plays.
What was missing from those days was the belly - dive by the fullback and the QB keeper option...it was a hand off to a RB and a pich to a second RB on the outside-a drastic change from Air Coryell, and only enjoyed a modicum of success.
 

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Watching Marty try to run the wishbone would be the equivalent of Martyball on Herion, basically, taking a stupid idea and making it worse.

Wishbone, :lol:
:icon_high: Martyball on heroin... that's pretty funny!
 

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Trumpet_Man said:
Don Coryell flashed it for a few plays. It was hilarious because it caught the team we faced off guard.

The defenses started blowing it up real quick so Coryell said - "no mas" basically.
Exactly--a cool gimmick which turns to shit pretty fast.
 

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Who cares. It'd be amusing to watch. Like when Flutie did that drop kick. It was also amusing to watch Cowher call that ridiculous fake punt that got killed, so there is that side of it. But anyway, if they're way up and they want to pull out some ridiculous play to make the highlight reel, then I'm all for it.:yes: