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Discussion in 'American Football' started by Concudan, Feb 11, 2018.

  1. Concudan

    Concudan Still Chargin Staff Member Administrator

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    https://boltbeat.com/2018/02/09/chargers-may-not-able-match-offer-tyrell-williams/

    In three years with the Los Angeles Chargers, wide receiver Tyrell Williams has gone from an unknown player out of Western Oregon facing long odds to make it professionally to one of the better young receivers in the NFL.

    The open signing period will kick off in just over a month and while many fans love to speculate about some of the big names their teams could reel in off the unrestricted free-agent list, many forget about the players that are restricted free agents.

    Williams will be a restricted free agent, meaning that teams can make him an offer but the Chargers would have the right to match that offer, which teams are not able to do with unrestricted free agents.

    A team needing a wide receiver would be wise to look into Williams and make him an offer as the Chargers may not be able to tie up any more money in the wide receiver position. Keenan Allen is the clear No. 1 receiver, Mike Williams was a first-round pick last year and Travis Benjamin would carry a $7 million cap hit if he were to be released.

    That might tie the Chargers’ hands if a team made a good offer. An offer that was front-loaded would be tough to match.

    Williams has 112 receptions and 11 touchdown catches over the last two seasons and a team out there could see plenty of value in his ability. With the Chargers needing to develop Mike Williams after the investment they made in him last year, it’s easy for Tyrell to get lost in the shuffle in Los Angeles.

    The restricted free-agent process can be quite effective when a team takes advantage of another team which they know will have a hard time matching their offer. The New England Patriots did this when they signed Chris Hogan to an offer sheet following the 2015 season. The Pats then went after the same team this past offseason, signing Mike Gillislee to an offer sheet. The Buffalo Bills failed to match either of those offers and the Patriots have found spots to plug both players into. Hogan has enjoyed much more success in New England.

    Williams is coming off a season in which he made $615,000. Another team could offer him significantly more to come in and be the No. 2 wide receiver, something the Chargers aren’t going to be able to guarantee after drafting a wide receiver in the first round last year.

    At least one team out there is likely considering this move. What will be the Chargers’ response?
     
  2. Chaincrusher

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    If the Chargers do not sign Ty. Williams to a long term deal, then my hope is that they offer him a second round tender or better. That should be enough to ward off suitors and not break the bank for the Chargers.
     
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    This is why they used the pick on Mike Williams last year. It would b nice to keep Ty but spending too much on WR when you have Allen as the #1 just isn't a good idea.
     
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    For 2017, the value assigned to a second round tender was $2.746M. The value should be reasonably close to that for 2018. Allen has a history of injury and Ty. Williams has proven that he can be the #1 guy in Allen's absence.

    Since Ty. Williams is better than Benjamin outright, getting him for close to $3M is a much better deal than the $7M cap hit Benjamin carries for 2018. And if another team signed him, then the Chargers would get a 2nd round draft pick if they chose not to match the offer sheet.

    M. Williams is totally unproven. I hope he becomes a player that is worthy of the #7 overall pick, but right now he is at best the team's #4 WR. I would not let Ty. Williams go (without high draft pick compensation) until M. Williams has proven that he can replace him.

    In fact, I would be fine with the team making a first round tender offer to Ty. Williams (which carried a salary of $3.91M in 2017), which would virtually guarantee that the team would keep Ty. Williams because parting with a first round pick would be too expensive.
     
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  5. Old School SD Fan

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    Ty is a better all around WR than Benjamin, and the deep threat Allen is not with much more height than Benjamin. Easy call.
     
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    I agree with all of this. I think placing a reasonable ($$$) tag on him is a good idea to be able to keep him or at least get compensation. Overspending on him is the only thing I would be against. At this point our eggs are in the Mike Williams basket enough that we need him to be worthy of the pick we used also.

    If we could save $7M from Benjamin I'd be all for spending more to keep Ty Williams. However, I think the $7M is the cap hit the team would take by releasing Benjamin this offseason and not his actual cap figure for 2018.
     
  7. Chaincrusher

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    Per Spotrac, releasing Benjamin would create $2.5M in dead cap versus $7M this year if he remains on the roster, so a potential $4.5M in savings by releasing him. I think Benjamin is being overpaid, but I do not see the team as having a better option at this point for the #3 WR, so I am okay with Benjamin being kept for the time being unless there is some big free agent out there that keeping Benjamin would prevent us from signing, which I doubt would ever be the case in light of the multitude of other possible roster moves and salary adjustments.
     
  8. LABoltFan

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    Okay then there is some disparity between what Sportrac says and what the OP's article states ("and Travis Benjamin would carry a $7 million cap hit if he were to be released.")
     
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  10. Concudan

    Concudan Still Chargin Staff Member Administrator

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    https://boltbeat.com/2018/02/25/afc...cent-trades-made-chargers-favorites-division/

    The Kansas City Chiefs have won the AFC West division in each of the last two seasons. However, recent trades may have shifted the balance of power over to southern California.

    The Los Angeles Chargers missed the playoffs last season largely in part due to two ugly losses against the Chiefs. In both of those games, Alex Smith and Marcus Peters were big factors for Kansas City.

    So far this offseason, the Chiefs have agreed to trade Smith to the Washington Redskins and to send Peters to the Los Angeles Rams. That can’t be anything but a good thing if you’re a Chargers fan.

    Smith was efficient against the Bolts last season, throwing four touchdown passes without an interception in two games. In those same two games, Peters picked Rivers off three times. Yes, three times. In those games, the Chiefs outscored the Chargers 54-23.

    Why the Chiefs made these trades is up for questioning, but the Chargers should be salivating over the idea of facing Patrick Mahomes next season while also being able to throw to Keenan Allen with Peters out of the way.

    The Chargers were close last season and with a great offseason, they could close that gap. The Chiefs have seemingly gotten worse by trading two of their best players. So, are the Chargers now the favorite to win the division?

    Mahomes is a bit of an unknown. Obviously the Chiefs have confidence in him, enough confidence to trade away a guy who went 53-27 in five seasons with the team. But who is going to replace Peters? That could be tricky. In three seasons since the Chiefs made him the No. 18 overall pick of the draft, he’s had 19 interceptions and a Defensive Rookie of the Year Award. No matter who they put out there next season, that guy will have his hands full with Allen, one of the best receivers in football.

    [​IMG]Mike Clay

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    Chargers the early favorite. Best overall roster in the division. https://twitter.com/chriswesseling/status/967106098313351168 …

    10:43 AM - Feb 23, 2018

    Division titles are usually not separated by much. It only takes one play in one game to decide which team takes the crown. Though this potential transfer of power didn’t take place on the field, it could certainly be the difference next season.

    There may be a method to the apparent madness in the Chiefs’ recent decisions, but a hungry Chargers team should be ready to take advantage to win their first AFC West title since 2009.
     
  11. Concudan

    Concudan Still Chargin Staff Member Administrator

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    https://boltbeat.com/2018/02/26/will-chargers-pick-up-melvin-gordons-fifth-year-option/

    Will the Chargers pick up Melvin Gordon’s fifth-year option?
    Chargers running back Melvin Gordon is in the final year of his rookie deal. That is, of course, if the Chargers don’t pick up Gordon’s fifth-year option.

    Will they? I believe they should.

    The Chargers traded up two spots to take Gordon at No. 15 overall in the 2015 NFL Draft. After a poor rookie year that was plagued by injuries, fumbling issues and zero touchdowns (yes, zero), Gordon has been one of the Chargers’ top offensive playmakers over the past two seasons. He’s rushed for 2,102 yards, including recording his first 1,000-yard rushing season in 2017. He’s been a threat in both the running game and passing game, totaling 24 touchdowns during that two-year span and finishing in the top 10 in yards from scrimmage both seasons. He’s only fumbled a total of three times, too.

    Last year, he played a full, 16-game season for the first time in his career. He finished with the seventh-most rushing yards (1,105) and tied for the sixth-most rushing touchdowns (eight). He was effective in setting up the pass, rushing for 537 yards on first-and-10, the 12th-best number among running backs. He also accounted for 58 first downs, second-most on the team behind wide receiver Keenan Allen (excludes Philip Rivers). Another stat? Only Chiefs’ Kareem Hunt forced more missed tackles than Gordon, as noted by Pro Football Focus.

    Gordon isn’t perfect. He averaged 3.9 yards per carry in both 2016 and 2017. His vision needs improving, he continues to hesitate on runs and he struggles to win those one-on-one matchups every now and then. He has the balance, power and speed you want in a running back, which allows him to pick up those tough yards, but he needs to work on the former three things if he wants to create longer runs. He was in the middle of the pack when it came to rushes of 20-plus yards (five) and only had one rush of 40-plus yards this past season.

    However, he put up solid numbers behind an offensive line that can’t run block. That in itself makes him very valuable. The offensive line is getting better, but if general manager Tom Telesco makes a few more upgrades in the offseason and Gordon continues to play like he did at the end of the season, he could be in for a monster year in 2018.

    Speaking of fifth-year options, the Chargers have exercised the fifth-year option on every first-round pick–CB Jason Verrett, OL D.J. Fluker, DE/LB Melvin Ingram and DL Corey Liuget–since the option came into play in 2014. Verrett will likely remain with the Chargers for at least one more year, Fluker was released just before his guaranteed one-year deal kicked in, Ingram played out his one-year option before getting tagged and signing a four-year, $64 million deal and Liuget was given a five-year, $51.25 million contract extension in June 2015 after he was initially set to play on the one-year option.

    The deadline to exercise the fifth-year option on 2015 first-round picks is May 3.
     
  12. RaiderRay

    RaiderRay RIP SD Chargers..F the LA Chargers, Go Irish Staff Member Administrator Podcaster

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    I'd like to see him move on to another team. Maybe back at home with Green Bay.
     
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  13. Concudan

    Concudan Still Chargin Staff Member Administrator

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    Why? Is it the system Green Bay runs or just anti-Charger talk?
     
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    RaiderRay RIP SD Chargers..F the LA Chargers, Go Irish Staff Member Administrator Podcaster

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    Packers did finish 17th in rushing yards/game vs the LACC at 24th. Accoding to his interview, he's not an LA type of guy and would probably thrive with Rogers and being near home.
     
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    That would be fine with me. Married to a GB fan. Been a fan of the Packers for 20 yrs now.
     
  16. Gill Man

    Gill Man Inaugural San Diego Charger Fan Since 1962 FUDEAN Staff Member Moderator

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    Yeah same here would love to see him go back to WI. Born in WI and wife born and raised there so we are cheeseheads. It's my team of choice now that spanos f-ed everything up for San Diegans. What a dick. Will never forgive the guy.

    But I'm not sure the Pack would be thrilled to have him, thus far he's not all that.....he shows some great stuff here and there but consitently dominating is not his forte. Pack need a back who can always get the tough yards and do a lot on his own instead of relying so much on the O line. Gordon had huge holes and a bigtime O line when at Madison.
     
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    Maybe they should re-think that strategy. I see a lot of meh in those players


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  18. Old School SD Fan

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    Close call, he certainly has not lived up to his draft position.
     
  19. Old School SD Fan

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    Could they win the division? Sure. Are they likely to make much noise in the playoffs - or more importantly in Los Angeles? Very, very doubtful.
     
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    It's been since 2009?

    wow, time flies then they land on

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  21. Gill Man

    Gill Man Inaugural San Diego Charger Fan Since 1962 FUDEAN Staff Member Moderator

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    That's typical of chrger draft picks in the first round. Only guy of late who is living up to the hype is Bosa and he was a no brainer at #3. And he'll be gone in a coupla years, he won't stick around for the spanos schit show.
     
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    Gill Man Inaugural San Diego Charger Fan Since 1962 FUDEAN Staff Member Moderator

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    yes and when they were winning yearly in the division everyone forgets to mention how overall schitty the AFC West was, absolutely disgraceful. So they all wanted to crown norval f-ing turner the best chrger coach of all time:roflmao: That's how misinformed and delusional many many charger homers were. Anyone being objective would have seen norval was a stooly for the egotistical aj smith and NEVER deserved to be a HC ANYWHERE in the league. Just another spanos attempt to turn off the fanbase and turn a p0tentially winning team into a pretender. spanos just kept putting folks in positions they didn't belong in. still does it. the nepotism will always make them underachieve expectations.......its the culture of that organization/family (if you can even call it a family because that's exactly what that team will never ever be.....family). Losers. :rolleyes:
     
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    http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angele...ould-focus-on-defensive-playmakers-at-combine

    COSTA MESA, Calif. -- A closer look at the positions the Los Angeles Chargerscould target at the NFL combine in Indianapolis:

    Positions of need: At the top of the list for the Chargers is adding a consistent kicker. However, the Chargers already signed Roberto Aguayo to a reserve/future contract and probably will add competition with a veteran in free agency. So with one of the league's worst run defenses last season, the Chargers need to add more athletic bodies who can make an impact defensively in the run game. That means players who can create havoc up front and rangy athletes at the second level of the defense who can cover and tackle. According to ESPN Stats & Information, the Chargers gave up 4.88 yards per rush and allowed 18 rushing plays of 20 yards or more last season -- both numbers the worst in the NFL. The Bolts also allowed a league-high 994 rushing yards after contact in 2017.

    Three players the Chargers should focus on at combine:

    Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech: At 6-5 and 250 pounds, Edmunds is a long, rangy athlete who can drop in coverage, blitz and be a player of impact in the running game. Edmonds also was productive at Virginia Tech, finishing with 108 combined tackles -- including 14 tackles for loss -- 5.5 sacks and three forced fumbles in 2017. It will be interesting to see what type of numbers Edmunds puts up in on-field testing and how he conducts himself during the interview process.

    Derwin James, S, Florida State:James has been compared by several draft analysts to Seattle Seahawksstrong safety Kam Chancellor, which is high praise. At 6-3 and 217 pounds, James has the speed to keep up with tight ends and running backs in coverage, along with the physicality to develop into a force as an in-the-box safety in the running game. James finished with 84 combined tackles -- including five tackles for loss -- a sack and two interceptions in his final season at Florida State.

    Vita Vea, DT, Washington: The Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year at 6-4 and 346 pounds was a run-stuffing force for the Huskies, helping them lead the nation in run defense. However, Vea also showed he can rush the passer from the interior, with 8.5 sacks the past two seasons. Vea finished with 43 combined tackles -- including 5.5 tackles for loss -- and 3.5 sacks his final season at Washington. ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. said Vea reminds him of Haloti Ngata.
     
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    No surprise here. The afc west is the worst division in football.
     
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    If Boston bails, then S instantly becomes the priority.
     
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    While I agree that Boston leaving would make safety a position of greater concern, I disagree with the notion that safety would suddenly become the priority. The team just drafted Jenkins and King and there may be a better player available at a position of need for the Chargers in round 1 that would be worth taking over Derwin James.

    IMO, Tremaine Edmunds and Quenton Nelson are must take players (that are better than Derwin James) if either is on the board at #17 and that is without regard to positional need. OGs and ILBs tend to fall a little in drafts due to their positions not being valued as much as others, so it would not be completely crazy to think that one of the two could drop all the way to #17 overall (though it is also very conceivable that neither player would drop that far).
     
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    No. The AFCS is hands down the worst division in football. Going forward, the AFCW is probably better than the AFCN as well and about the same as the AFCE.
     
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    It is not just that they could win the division, it is that they are now seen as the favorite to win the division by many following the Chiefs trading away two of their best players.
     
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    Thats one of the digs on RBs out of UW Madison. The Badger's oline is so dominant that they are a bit overrated when they hit the NFL.

    We head up to, as my brother-in-law would say "Da Nort Woods" every July. Manitowish Waters. Wife's family has a place up there on one of the lakes. Old and rustic, built in 1923-24.
     
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    Well one thing for sure is the Pack O line is consistently better than anything the Chargers have put together particularly in the last decade. And Aaron Rodgers is out of Philip River's league , and for my money is the best QB in all of football hands down, so they are a team that could put Gordon in a better position to optimize his talents. Pack are undergoing some overhaul however so it remains to be seen if they bounce back quicker than later. Horrible year last year with Rodgers out. Bummer.

    Cool re: your family in WI. The midwest is pretty awesome, all except for the damn cold long winters LOL But for cheese......give me aged cheddar WI cheese anytime over any other cheese......nothing on earth anywhere like it. I always have my wife bring back some blocks when she comes home from there.......5 year aged seems to work the best for me but the longer aged stuff is great too. My wife's brother is still in Oshkosh. Most of the family is in Madison and Milwaukee. One brother is in Spooner and they own a bar and bed/breakfast there and he's also in insurance. Deer hunting big there with them. Also their family has a park with their last name in West Bend....Regner Park.

    GO PACK!!!! I gotta get to Lambeau one day. Take it all in. THAT is a football town ....Green Bay.
     
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