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Cardale Jones looks terrible, LT sounds terrible

Discussion in 'American Football' started by Fender57, Aug 11, 2018.

  1. Fender57

    Fender57 BoltTalker

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    Jones would be a great QB if the position did not require passing. He is very elusive. But he appears to not have the ability to hit the broad side of a barn from the inside.

    LT is predictably bad as an analyst. Huge downgrade from Danny.
     
  2. Fender57

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    Chargers TE Culkin caught a long one over the middle and was drilled by the safety. He subsequently fumbled and AZ recovered. But, the refs threw a flag and called a personal foul, hit on a defenseless player. WTF, he had the ball, now you can’t hit the player with the ball?
     
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    Sturgis completely shanked a 41 yard chip shot field goal.

    Can’t wait to see the other kicker, the head case.
     
  4. Concudan

    Concudan Still Chargin Staff Member Administrator

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    I agree, terrible call by the refs. Good effort by Culkin.
     
  5. Harryo the K

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    Yeah, the NFL is screwy. My favorite dumb penalty is defensive holding, five yards and an automatic first down.
    No. If it's bad, It's holding pass interference, spot first down. If a team is terrible in a game, gains no yards on first and second downs...they don't deserve an automatic first down for a five yard prnalty. Play the down over or take your five yards and kick.

    LT is terrible in his role. Spanni must be wanting to get their money's worth out of his thirty pieces of silver.
     
  6. Concudan

    Concudan Still Chargin Staff Member Administrator

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    Smith is out performing Jones so far. Nwosu is going to be good.
     
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    Concudan Still Chargin Staff Member Administrator

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    Yeah terrible kick. No where close.... where does TT get these guys?
     
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  8. Fender57

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    Is there really a dearth of decent place kickers available?
     
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    Concudan Still Chargin Staff Member Administrator

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    Not sure, maybe another team will cut one... sheesh.
     
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    Concudan Still Chargin Staff Member Administrator

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    A lot of PI face mask penalties. Didnt see it on the it on the replay.
     
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    Concudan Still Chargin Staff Member Administrator

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    Gotta love camp... a DE with the number 46.
     
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    Concudan Still Chargin Staff Member Administrator

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    I lnow that was close but it looks like a fumble to me. Watt caught it turned and took a step.

    I would say that is an Arizona fumbel recovery and TD.

    Ruling stands. AZ TD.
     
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    Yeah, I think the only real uniformity should be Olinemen, since they’re ineligible the refs need a quick and easy way to identify them. Every other position should be allowed any number.
     
  14. Fender57

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    Definitely a fumble, agreed.
     
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    They have issues at backup QB but Geno really looks better, even with the pick.
     
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  16. Harryo the K

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    Snow looks better than slush.
     
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    If this is what the NFL is become then good riddance. That was 100% a clean hit.

    Just go ahead and put flags on everyone and change the name to the NFFL (National Flag Football League).
     
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    Sounds like I didn't miss much.

    So what was the final score?
     
  19. Fender57

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    24-17 AZ leads in the 4th.
     
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    I didn't know this stupid game was on. I walked into my Phoenix bar, noticed they were showing the Fartinals and Spanoses and asked the waitress to turn off the game on every TV. Nobody complained.
     
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    Nate Kaeding is available.
     
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    Concudan Still Chargin Staff Member Administrator

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    Smith looked like a back up and Jones looked terrible. Though Smith has a lot more games starts than Jones, I have to wonder if Jones is even seeing the defense. Neither are a Rivers that is for sure.

    The young players on D, Nwosu, James and Landrum looked good. I think the D is going to have some good quality depth.

    But it is just preseason, and preseasons sucks. Not even seeing Rivers for a series sucks... And in the end, the Chargers have to avoid being the Chargers at the start of the real season.
     
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    Kirk has big early play, Cardinals beat Chargers 24-17
    http://www.espn.com/nfl/recap?gameId=401030943

    GLENDALE, Ariz. -- The first time Christian Kirk returned a punt in college, he took it back for a touchdown. He almost did it again on his first touch in the NFL.

    "I was thinking to myself `It's happening again," the speedy Arizona rookie said.

    Not quite.

    He slipped making a move, against the punter (a former college teammate) no less, but the 38-yard return set up a touchdown drive in the first-team offense's only series of the game, and the Cardinals beat the Los Angeles Chargers 24-17 in their preseason opener on Saturday night.

    Rookie Josh Rosen completed 6 of 13 passes for 41 yards in his Arizona debut, playing the whole first half after the opening series.

    "There's a lot of things he's going to be able to learn and grow from off this first game, watching the tape," Cardinals first-year coach Steve Wilks said. "We expect him to get better, along with myself and everybody else."

    Geno Smith, battling Cardale Jones for the backup job behind the Chargers' Philip Rivers, completed 14 of 23 passes for 218 yards, including a 47-yard touchdown throw to Geremy Davis . He was intercepted once.

    With Rivers sitting this one out, Jones started and played nearly the entire first half, completing 6 of 12 passes for 50 yards.

    "At some point, I want to know what we have in Cardale Jones," coach Anthony Lynn said. "He came into this league and he's never really been given a legitimate opportunity, in my opinion. I want to give him that opportunity."

    Kirk, Arizona's second-round draft pick out of Texas A&M, took the Chargers' early punt and broke free . He might have taken it all the way had he not slipped trying to make a move against Los Angeles punter Drew Kaser, Kirk's teammate at Texas A&M.

    Kirk probably could have run right past Kaser.

    "I gave him the benefit of the doubt, thought he could run a little bit," Kirk joked.

    "He thought I was going to keep running, too. It's definitely disappointing, obviously, when you think you had an opportunity to get in the end zone, especially on my first touch."

    Arizona's David Johnson reeled off a pair of 14-yard runs on the first two plays, his only carries of the night, and rookie Chase Edmonds scored on fourth-and-goal from the 2-yard line. Edmonds was hit behind the line of scrimmage but used a second effort to barely stretch the ball over the goal line.

    Sam Bradford, making his debut as Arizona's starting quarterback, directed the scoring drive in his Cardinals debut but mostly handed the ball off. He completed his only pass for 6 yards.

    Arizona's second touchdown came in the third quarter when Jeremy Cashreturned a fumble 12 yards for a score. Later in the quarter, Cash was carted off the field with a knee injury.

    Charles Kanoff, an undrafted rookie out of Princeton, threw a 14-yard TD pass to Bryce Williams for the go-ahead score with 10:06 to play. The game ended when Chargers QB Nic Shimonek was tackled at the Arizona 2-yard line.

    Arizona was 0 for 11 on third-down conversions.

    ROSEN'S DEBUT

    Rosen didn't get much help from his offensive line or his receivers, having to dodge the rush to get a pass off. He had two passes dropped.

    Daniel Munyer, the backup center now that rookie Mason Cole is a starter, had trouble with shotgun formation snaps, repeatedly rolling the ball to the quarterback. Cole took over when A.Q. Shipley went down with a torn ACL in training camp.

    "I think I did some good things and some bad things," Rosen said.

    OKUNG'S PROTEST

    Los Angeles left tackle Russell Okung raised his right first during the national anthem.


    Okung stood behind the rest of the players, who had lined up on the sideline. He was the only player on either side to protest visibly.

    Okung is a member of the executive committee of the NFL players' union.

    SLOPPY CHARGERS

    Los Angeles turned the ball over four times, three times on fumbles and once on an interception.

    The Chargers also were penalized 15 times for 155 yards. Arizona had one turnover and 11 penalties for 110 yards.

    "You could tell it was definitely preseason week one," Lynn said. "It was too sloppy."

    UP NEXT

    Chargers: are home against the Seattle Seahawks next Saturday night.

    Cardinals: play at New Orleans on Friday night.
     
  24. Concudan

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    Chargers head coach Anthony Lynn had this to say when asked by reporters about the possibility of Antonio Gates still returning to the team. Tight ends were responsible for five drops against the Cardinals. "We've talked to Antonio and we're still talking with him," Lynn said. "I don't know where that's going to go. We need to make more plays at the tight end position. We dropped some balls today that should have been caught. I expected that to get better."
     
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    Hope that Rashaad Penny runs over the entire LAC defense next week and puts them all on IR. Go Hawks!
     
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  26. Concudan

    Concudan Still Chargin Staff Member Administrator

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    Didn't your mama ever tell you, if you don't have anything nice to type, don't type anything at all?

    Hoping for season ending injuries...
     
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    Just season ending...not career ending. So it's not mean at all. :tup:
     
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  28. Gill Man

    Gill Man Inaugural San Diego Charger Fan Since 1962 FUDEAN Staff Member Moderator

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    any preseason game ending without significant injury is a major victory. That's about all one can say about preseason. What a boring waste for fans, and to have to spend a full ticket price to see an exhibition game which is basically practicing and never really showing things to future opponents, well shameful that 4 games are spent on such trivia.
     
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  29. Concudan

    Concudan Still Chargin Staff Member Administrator

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    Yeah Gilly, as you say the worst thing is that the owners charge full prices to the people for them. They should give the tickets away to the military and charities and take them as a write off.
     
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    Gill Man Inaugural San Diego Charger Fan Since 1962 FUDEAN Staff Member Moderator

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    exactly, if the NFL owners want a modicum of respect and a minimal step in the right direction re: rehabilitating their greedy image, they should do exactly that......half to quarter price for regular fans, and at least half the seats donated to charities/military/sick children etc. As you say, it's a write of for them. But the NFL just wants more and more, it's never enough $ for them, no matter what. Horrendous way to garner respect or to conduct public relations.

    Well back in the day when games were gonna be blacked out ownership DID agree to buy up the remaining seats in certain games and donate those to military....so I guess I can't claim they NEVER stop the greed totally.....but even then...it was a writeoff. The bottom line always came first most likely. The main motivation was not charitable there, it was to keep the flames of city/fan support going and to take the write off, realizing the long term benefit outweighed the short term loss. That's how they alway roll.
     

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