Breaking Ground - New SDSU Stadium Work Commences

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I just saw a couple of articles that the ceremonial shovels broke ground this morning. Any other official word?


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I think 35K will work well for a XFL team, and soon, even NFL teams with all the 'streaming', to the point where 35K home fans is plenty for TV optics.
The old 70K min. for a Super Bowl....no one can afford that, and how do you fill it
after the Super Bowl?

 

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just great......seriously?? just move the damn school too
 

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With no games this year, kinda makes sense to use this year and run full in 2021,
construction wise.

Maybe Stan would let them play free on Saturdays at the SoFi.
Stadium already has a Mountain West Conference connection.

A little poke to a deadbeat tenant.
 

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You mean to tell me that Petco Park could not have accommodated the Aztecs football team by putting in some stripes on the baseball field? UCSD could have had a team play on their field as well. Why Dignity?
 

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You mean to tell me that Petco Park could not have accommodated the Aztecs football team by putting in some stripes on the baseball field? UCSD could have had a team play on their field as well. Why Dignity?
very good question. They could have used a damn high school stadium Or how about a JC field like Southwestern? I don't get it. IMO the Aztec administation is just another cog in the wheel of bad SD planning for sports complexes and dealing with owners/city etc. I blame them a lot for no deal getting done in MV for the bolts too. Giving that school all that land is a bad idea IMO. Many disagree but it's just that area should have been master-planned to include not just the Aztecs but also professional basketball, hockey, and as much as I hate to say it, the NFL too for some future date when it returns. There will not be a better place for multiple sports and a huge complex like that spot. And it's great for tailgating too. I think I'll always have a grudge against the Aztecs for ending up with it. I mean it's better than nothing but it's just so minor league of the city to allow that to happen. Where is Joseph Tsai when you need him?????
 

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very good question. They could have used a damn high school stadium Or how about a JC field like Southwestern? I don't get it. IMO the Aztec administation is just another cog in the wheel of bad SD planning for sports complexes and dealing with owners/city etc. I blame them a lot for no deal getting done in MV for the bolts too. Giving that school all that land is a bad idea IMO. Many disagree but it's just that area should have been master-planned to include not just the Aztecs but also professional basketball, hockey, and as much as I hate to say it, the NFL too for some future date when it returns. There will not be a better place for multiple sports and a huge complex like that spot. And it's great for tailgating too. I think I'll always have a grudge against the Aztecs for ending up with it. I mean it's better than nothing but it's just so minor league of the city to allow that to happen. Where is Joseph Tsai when you need him?????
It is lost land in a fight for politicians. At least they will get their river walk park out of it. (And hoping that they are able to chase off the homeless currently living there by the river, so no one gets robbed or mugged.)
Of course, now the big question would be if you had the money and resources (read that as land) to do it, where would the next NFL stadium be built in San Diego?
 

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It is lost land in a fight for politicians. At least they will get their river walk park out of it. (And hoping that they are able to chase off the homeless currently living there by the river, so no one gets robbed or mugged.)
Of course, now the big question would be if you had the money and resources (read that as land) to do it, where would the next NFL stadium be built in San Diego?
Not counting the outermost areas of San Diego County, the last best choice was the Sports Arena area but they’ve already earmarked that for a new arena/parkland/mall/condos so that’s out.
 

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Building new stadiums beyond the 35,000 SDSU size, will also be the NFL norm. The days 65-70K stadiums with mostly “fan seating” are dead. They'll start with planned 25,000 sky boxes and then add maybe 10-15 K fan seating.
The game money goes digital. And rich fans game day experience.
That's what's going to happen. SoFi is the last of it’s kind.
 

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I may go to one game up there, just to see where the Chokers were laughed out of the soccer stadium.

Wonder if OC/LA has enough SDSU alumni
 

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It is lost land in a fight for politicians. At least they will get their river walk park out of it. (And hoping that they are able to chase off the homeless currently living there by the river, so no one gets robbed or mugged.)
Of course, now the big question would be if you had the money and resources (read that as land) to do it, where would the next NFL stadium be built in San Diego?
I think it's pretty clear now that we're so much better off without the NFL here anymore. As long as the new stadium can hold many new events and hopefully bring in some new sports (MLS), we're going to be much better off. And we'll see what happens with the Sports Arena development. That could have some big possibilities.
 

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I think it's pretty clear now that we're so much better off without the NFL here anymore. As long as the new stadium can hold many new events and hopefully bring in some new sports (MLS), we're going to be much better off. And we'll see what happens with the Sports Arena development. That could have some big possibilities.
If the new Sports Arena actually gets built to the “world class” description they’re touting, we will likely be in the running for at least an NHL expansion or relocation. NBA maybe too if the arena is spiffy enough.
 
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If the new Sports Arena actually gets built to the “world class” description they’re touting, we will likely be in the running for at least an NHL expansion or relocation. NBA maybe too if the arena is spiffy enough.

I did not know the details, but this article and video give a good overview.

 

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The return of the Clips?
Doubtful, Ballmer is gonna stake his claim in LA, plus the NBA has failed twice they’d probably be hesitant to try for a third time unless we can make NHL hockey work, which we’ve proven we can with the Gulls.
 

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Doubtful, Ballmer is gonna stake his claim in LA, plus the NBA has failed twice they’d probably be hesitant to try for a third time unless we can make NHL hockey work, which we’ve proven we can with the Gulls.
I'm not a hockey fan but more teams here would be good to see (as long as they don't hold us hostage like the NFL). How possible is it that the Gulls could become an expansion team? (I don't imagine we could have both the Gulls and an NHL team)
 

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I'm not a hockey fan but more teams here would be good to see (as long as they don't hold us hostage like the NFL). How possible is it that the Gulls could become an expansion team? (I don't imagine we could have both the Gulls and an NHL team)
Yeah, we wouldn’t have both. A new expansion team would probably become the Gulls, with the league or owners buying out the current ones for rights to the name. I honestly don’t know the probability of expansion vs relocation, but if they build a state of the art arena I’d have to think we’d attract the NHL and/or the NBA.
 
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It is lost land in a fight for politicians. At least they will get their river walk park out of it. (And hoping that they are able to chase off the homeless currently living there by the river, so no one gets robbed or mugged.)
Of course, now the big question would be if you had the money and resources (read that as land) to do it, where would the next NFL stadium be built in San Diego?
Not counting the outermost areas of San Diego County, the last best choice was the Sports Arena area but they’ve already earmarked that for a new arena/parkland/mall/condos so that’s out.
yeah, probably no great replacement site. So we will never see the glory days of MV again at least for the NFL and our great fans. Any replacement would have to be considerably away from that optimum site.....something like north county, oceanside, etc etc. Not near as accessible or nice. But in reality as Harry says, the NFL has radically changed from the days we used to love supporting Air Coryell , Boss Ross, etc........PSL's and corporate pricing and commercialism have changed it for good and they care less about the roots of the sport, the fans, live games for the average fan anymore. Its' all about revenue from media now. I"m pretty much done with the NFL for that reason. Hell, my Packers are supposed to have a great year and I don't give a damn LOL. Eff em.
 
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Speaking of real estate, I guess the old power plant in Chula Vista could be an option. I was also thinking of two other spots, one where the 52 and 163 meet up by the city dump, and the other one would be in the neighborhood of UTC where they are building that new trolley extension.
 

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Speaking of real estate, I guess the old power plant in Chula Vista could be an option. I was also thinking of two other spots, one where the 52 and 163 meet up by the city dump, and the other one would be in the neighborhood of UTC where they are building that new trolley extension.
I think the old Chula Vista power plant is already being developed.