2024 Padre Season: Will Soto be traded? How many games will we win? PRELLER IS A PUTZ! Will we be worth a Shildt this season?

[Gill Man]

24.5 million a year.

The Pads have to set aside 33M for Soto this year.

Right now they’re at $176M. This includes arb money which includes Soto. He will not be traded during the offseason.

Think Blake would take a backend loaded deal?

San Diego Padres 2024 Salaries Payroll

San Diego Padres 2024 salary cap table, including breakdowns of salaries, bonuses, incentives, cap figures, dead money and more.

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would love to keep Blake and yeah he'd have to structure it that way but guessing no way his agent accepts that kind of deal....too much chance he gets injured as a pitcher unless it guaranteed against injury and Pads would not do that. Something has to give. Just a damn shame guys like Yu got golden parachutes....too many of those are aging and injury prone. They got carried away thinking they were building a dynasty team to compete with the dogs and totally missed that mark...by a long shot. Guys like Soto, Jr. and Blake should form the backbone of the team. Build around them. But I'm thinkin its next to impossible now that they are in cost cutting mode. Bad timing and bad planning. We all know where the problem lies....unfortunately hes here another 2 years looks like...more as a tip of the hat to Peter and his life than on merit obviously.

 

[Fender57]

would love to keep Blake and yeah he'd have to structure it that way but guessing no way his agent accepts that kind of deal....too much chance he gets injured as a pitcher unless it guaranteed against injury and Pads would not do that. Something has to give. Just a damn shame guys like Yu got golden parachutes....too many of those are aging and injury prone. They got carried away thinking they were building a dynasty team to compete with the dogs and totally missed that mark...by a long shot. Guys like Soto, Jr. and Blake should form the backbone of the team. Build around them. But I'm thinkin its next to impossible now that they are in cost cutting mode. Bad timing and bad planning. We all know where the problem lies....unfortunately hes here another 2 years looks like...more as a tip of the hat to Peter and his life than on merit obviously.

It would have to be guaranteed for Snell to even consider it but there will be other teams that will come hard and pay him Nola money. I can see him getting 25M per year guaranteed by a team like the Dogs, who’d love to get him simply because he’s a Dog killer.

 

[Faded Blues]

No on smell.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/padres/adam-mazur-800049

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/padres/robby-snelling-702281

 

[Faded Blues]

It's time to bring up the kids to save money.

Plus I think we can lock up Lugo and wacha for less money than Snell.

 

[Fender57]

No on smell.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/padres/adam-mazur-800049

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/padres/robby-snelling-702281

It's time to bring up the kids to save money.

Plus I think we can lock up Lugo and wacha for less money than Snell.

I agree, don’t think they’ll sign Snell, they tendered him what they were willing to pay.

I don’t think we’ll get Wacha or Lugo either, both guys had great bounceback seasons and will command much more than they’re worth.

Gonna have to rely on the kids and possibly some bargain bin finds like Lugo and Wacha were last year.

 

[Fender57]

I’m beginning to have some hope that maybe they can land Soto. Seems like they are clearing the decks and sitting at $176M including Soto is a good sign. They should be able to fill the gaps with youngsters and low to mid range players. Minus Manny’s injury they still have the starting 8 on the roster.

 

[Harryo the K]

I’m beginning to have some hope that maybe they can land Soto. Seems like they are clearing the decks and sitting at $176M including Soto is a good sign. They should be able to fill the gaps with youngsters and low to mid range players. Minus Manny’s injury they still have the starting 8 on the roster.

Wonder what options would appeal to Soto and Boras.....maybe five years and then team/player options? Or maximum a 7 year deal....the opportunity to team up Soto up with Tatis and Manny is a rare item.

 

[Faded Blues]

Wonder what options would appeal to Soto and Boras.....maybe five years and then team/player options? Or maximum a 7 year deal....the opportunity to team up Soto up with Tatis and Manny is a rare item.

You could offer him a similar deal to Manny where he can opt at year 5.

 

[Fender57]

Wonder what options would appeal to Soto and Boras.....maybe five years and then team/player options? Or maximum a 7 year deal....the opportunity to team up Soto up with Tatis and Manny is a rare item.

I don’t think Boras is going to back off of his demands but I think the brass is going to try and honor Pete by making a good faith effort to sign him as I believe that was what he wanted. That means they have to figure out a budget for not only 2024 but beyond and make sure they move the right pieces to make it work. Huge challenge with the guaranteed contracts in place.

 

[wrbanwal]

I don’t think Boras is going to back off of his demands but I think the brass is going to try and honor Pete by making a good faith effort to sign him as I believe that was what he wanted. That means they have to figure out a budget for not only 2024 but beyond and make sure they move the right pieces to make it work. Huge challenge with the guaranteed contracts in place.

Sure would be nice if for once these spoiled fuking athletes would do the right thing by the team and its fans.

I think it was Brady that used to restructure. As much as I think that dude is a giant douchebag I think he did it right in NE

 

[Harryo the K]

You could offer him a similar deal to Manny where he can opt at year 5.

Don't hate me but 1. It appears many teams are cutting back on budgets and releasing players that in other years they would carry over (Brewers releasing pitcher Woodruff due to cost and injury could affect most of 2024). 2. When Ohtani signs for mega money, it will not necessarily bring back the high numbers of previous 2022 free agent signings. But agents will still try and demand the highest possible comparison, if Ohtani hit 44 hrs....and my guy hit 35....or he got 12 years, we want 11 years.....it's different thus year. Phillies signing Nola and then saying that's about it, tells you the market this year.

 

[Fender57]

Sure would be nice if for once these spoiled fuking athletes would do the right thing by the team and its fans.

I think it was Brady that used to restructure. As much as I think that dude is a giant douchebag I think he did it right in NE

Rivers did it too. They did it for the teams and had a way to get their money while creatively circumventing the cap.

Baseball is different, the money is guaranteed and I don’t know if restructuring is even allowed through the CBA.

 

[Harryo the K]

Baseball is different, the money is guaranteed and I don’t know if restructuring is even allowed through the CBA.

Money is guaranteed but owner's life is not. The CBA of the Universe.

 

[Fender57]

Looks like it’s Shildt. Probably already decided before Peter passed, big clue was Murphy got hired in Milwaukee.

Probably the best case scenario from the mess Putz made.

Padres hire Mike Shildt: Ex-Cardinals manager takes over in San Diego after Bob Melvin departs

Shildt joined the Padres in January of 2022 and he's now been promoted to manager

www.cbssports.com

 

[Fender57]

Just heard Shildt got a two year contract. That lines up with Preller and Gruepner in 2026.

Do or die for these guys or the new regime will clean house. Hope we all can hold out that long.

 

[Faded Blues]

If they want to save their jobs, they better sign Soto long term.

 

[Fender57]

Padres name Mike Shildt as manager with 2-year contract

The Padres hired Mike Shildt to be the 23rd manager in franchise history on Tuesday, finalizing a two-year contract with the 55-year-old, who spent the past two seasons as a senior advisor with the club. Shildt, who had previously managed the Cardinals for parts of four seasons, helmed St. Louis

www.mlb.com

 

[Harryo the K]

Good choice, solid baseball man, proven on Major League level.

 

[Gill Man]

Good choice, solid baseball man, proven on Major League level.

Kind of what was said of Melvin. Melvin probably saying to himself " that poor fucker, damn I'm glad I'm out of that place". We can only hope 2026 is when this regime is out of here and no extensions to the deadbeats. But given the history of hires around here would not surprise me if even after mediocre seasons in 2024 and 2025 this ownership just continues on with the same crap. Only thing that will keep that from happening is a big drop in ticket sales and the problem is there is star talent like Jr. that keeps drawing them in despite really lousy underperformance by the team. San Diegans have one game in town...thats the problem.

 

[Fender57]

Hope AJ lets him try.

 

[Gill Man]

well he sure doesn't look like the mild mannered clark kent....looks more like a badass druglord. From good to evil. Time to kickass.

 

[Harryo the K]

MLB, NHL, NBA are trying a three way campaign to convince you, betting just entertainment. For you to pretend after you're done drinking responsibly and are legally drunk, to bet responsibly and lose all your money and money you don't have and keep your two broken kneecaps.


One of the primo paragraphs:

"Working with our fellow sports leagues, gaming operator partners, and responsible gaming partners gives added weight – particularly for young bettors – to this shared priority of making an impact on responsible gaming education across the United States," said Scott Kaufman-Ross, NBA Senior Vice President Head of Gaming & New Business Ventures.  "Ensuring fans are aware of the inherent risk if they choose to bet and correcting the misconception that betting on sports is a good way to make money are integral to the NBA's approach to legal sports betting."

"Correcting the misconception that betting on sports is a good way to make money.."

Total corporate bullshit.

 

[Harryo the K]

Hope AJ lets him try.

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My Brother, Mads Mikkelsen, will coach third base...
and first coach....among other duties.

 

[Harryo the K]

 

[Fender57]

MLB, NHL, NBA are trying a three way campaign to convince you, betting just entertainment. For you to pretend after you're fine drinking responsibly and are legally drunk, to bet responsibly and lose all your money and money you don't have and keep your two broken kneecaps.


One of the primo paragraphs:

"Working with our fellow sports leagues, gaming operator partners, and responsible gaming partners gives added weight – particularly for young bettors – to this shared priority of making an impact on responsible gaming education across the United States," said Scott Kaufman-Ross, NBA Senior Vice President Head of Gaming & New Business Ventures.  "Ensuring fans are aware of the inherent risk if they choose to bet and correcting the misconception that betting on sports is a good way to make money are integral to the NBA's approach to legal sports betting."

"Correcting the misconception that betting on sports is a good way to make money.."

Total corporate bullshit.

They forgot to add about partnering with the drug dealers. Might as well.

 

[Fender57]

well he sure doesn't look like the mild mannered clark kent....looks more like a badass druglord. From good to evil. Time to kickass.

He only smuggles in the good Shildt.

 

[Fender57]

I listened to the Shildt presser and then the interview afterwards. I kinda liked what he had to say but at this point I don’t have much recourse.

I got the impression he was no nonsense but had a good heart, in his various duties he was a roving minor league consultant, so he got to know a lot of the farmhands. Jackson Merrill reportedly told Steven Woods that Shildt was an excellent hire. Shildt himself said he got to know Jr really well as he worked with him while he was rehabbing in the offseason and during the time Tati had to serve the rest of his suspension. Sounds like the guy got a real good head start on learning what this organization was all about, after hearing what he had to say and how very well informed he was, seems like in hindsight this hire was a no brainer, and I bet the decision was made a long time ago, even before Peter passed and his untimely death just delayed the announcement.

 

[Faded Blues]

I listened to the Shildt presser and then the interview afterwards. I kinda liked what he had to say but at this point I don’t have much recourse.

I got the impression he was no nonsense but had a good heart, in his various duties he was a roving minor league consultant, so he got to know a lot of the farmhands. Jackson Merrill reportedly told Steven Woods that Shildt was an excellent hire. Shildt himself said he got to know Jr really well as he worked with him while he was rehabbing in the offseason and during the time Tati had to serve the rest of his suspension. Sounds like the guy got a real good head start on learning what this organization was all about, after hearing what he had to say and how very well informed he was, seems like in hindsight this hire was a no brainer, and I bet the decision was made a long time ago, even before Peter passed and his untimely death just delayed the announcement.

Agree, this decision was probably made last off season and Bob probably had to get to the world series for him to stay here.


Not saying Shlidt is better than bob but it's not Flaherty which would have been a disaster.

 

[Fender57]

Agree, this decision was probably made last off season and Bob probably had to get to the world series for him to stay here.


Not saying Shlidt is better than bob but it's not Flaherty which would have been a disaster.

It’s hard to say if the decision was made as early as last offseason, I think everyone expected a World Series and we’re giddy about it. But I do think, given the Putz’s snakey MO, he hired Shildt as a backup plan, which only served to undermine Bob throughout his tenure.

 

[Fender57]

Speaking of Bob, although I feel he got a raw deal here, it still irritates me nonetheless about how much he’s acting like a schoolgirl who finally landed her dream crush in relation to his hiring with the Giants. He never seemed too gung ho as a Padre, already I feel like Shildt’s presser gives me a lot more confidence than Bob’s initial arrival. Which makes sense since Bob was essentially stolen away/jumped ship and it wasn’t the cleanest of moves by all parties. Shildt came across as a humble guy grateful to get another chance, and you kind of have to admire how an accomplished manager like Shildt basically beat the bushes for the Padres and waited his turn. Seems like a good guy.