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I will be very surprised if tua plays again. The
Neck injury is really bad.
hmm I saw the headline in espn sports section he left the game with an injury but did not realize it was that bad. Dammit. That would be a tragedy for him and for all of football...he was just really getting going and good. That is the problem with running QB's .....I'd have to see how that happened to comment anymore and draw any conclusions re: running QB or not.That sucks whatever happened.
 

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I will be very surprised if tua plays again. The
Neck injury is really bad.
Not that bad:
The Dolphins said shortly before halftime that he was conscious and had movement in all his extremities at the hospital, the University of Cincinnati Medical Center. After the game, they said Tagovailoa was expected to be released from the hospital Thursday night and travel back to Miami with the team.
If you look at the replay it's not that bad....he was thrown onto the turf and hit the back of his head....pretty much a concussion setup. COULD have been a neck issue with a severe whiplash type injury but from the sound of the above that is not an issue. Sound like they've already cleared him to travel back to Miami with the team. Great news for the kid. And that was not an issue of him running at all.....he just got sacked and his line was nowhere to be found on that play. He did try to escape the onslaught but that is sort of a normal reaction for any QB with mobility. Sure glad he will be playing soon, probably has to go thru concussion protocol though. His line needs to protect him more and make sure he doesn't take too many head shots or they are gonna lose him.
 

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Re: Tua. I was walking by a restaurant that had big screens and I stopped briefly to watch the football game, mainly just to check out the new Bengals uniform (I thought they looked weird), and it happened to be the play where Tua got slammed. I noticed his fingers were bent weird and I thought maybe he landed on them and crushed them. The players all got concerned and when they started kneeling I knew there was something serious going on. I had to move on and didn’t hear anything as I had the Padres on the radio.

I saw this picture on Reddit and I guess when you get a brain injury you do something called posturing, where your extremities involuntarily move. That’s what was going on with his hands. I really hope they don’t rush him back, he just suffered a head injury last Sunday and subsequently “cleared” by the sideline doctor, now this.

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Re: Tua. I was walking by a restaurant that had big screens and I stopped briefly to watch the football game, mainly just to check out the new Bengals uniform (I thought they looked weird), and it happened to be the play where Tua got slammed. I noticed his fingers were bent weird and I thought maybe he landed on them and crushed them. The players all got concerned and when they started kneeling I knew there was something serious going on. I had to move on and didn’t hear anything as I had the Padres on the radio.

I saw this picture on Reddit and I guess when you get a brain injury you do something called posturing, where your extremities involuntarily move. That’s what was going on with his hands. I really hope they don’t rush him back, he just suffered a head injury last Sunday and subsequently “cleared” by the sideline doctor, now this.

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I just recall what happened to chris deilman and think this situation is very similar. I saw his hands and thought brain and nerve damage. Like I said, I will be surprised to see him on the field any time soon. Maybe not forever, but I really hope the dude takes at least 4 games off.
 

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Tua traveled back to Miami wearing a neck brace last night and will have a mri done today. I am surprised they didn’t do one last night. X-rays were taken and came back negative.
 
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Tua traveled back to Miami wearing a neck brace last night and will have a mri done today. I am surprised they didn’t do one last night. X-rays were taken and came back negative.
It’s outrageous they’re treating this like it’s no big deal. They can’t treat it like two concussions because they signed off the first one like he didn’t get one. I hope Tua is protecting himself and not letting the Dolphins call the shots here.
 

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Tua traveled back to Miami wearing a neck brace last night and will have a mri done today. I am surprised they didn’t do one last night. X-rays were taken and came back negative.
That in itself is outrageous. Plain xrays show zip unless there is an obvious fracture or dislocation. If he has a disc injury (which could impinge on the spinal cord) or a subtle fracture not detected on plain film.....and they release the guy to go to Miami and THEN get worked up by MRI that is potential negligence and ground for a personal injury lawsuit should he be harmed by delayed diagnosis. Completely insane they would do that and put the player and themselves at risk....player for further injury and themselves for a personal injury lawsuit. He probably will be ok given they put him in a neck brace, but why not just get him the MRI right then and there to be sure before releasing him? His symptoms were pretty significant on the field. Just get the damn MRI or at least a CT before sending him off in a neck brace.

You'd think they would have known already prior to this that the medical staff is being questioned and now threatened with potential legal action if that 2nd concussion leads to a serious event. So work the kid up with everything including MRI while he's there. Jeebus.

And, it seems apparent the NFL has not learned much of anything and could care less about the players welfare if they shoved the 1st head injury under the rug. The neuroscientist is enraged for good reason. Wow. Way to go NFL, dumbasses. The dude should not have even been playing in the game against the Bungles. I hope the kid is ok but at the same time I hope the NFL gets sued into the ground and their image damaged even further than it already is. Anything to win. Tua is also at fault here for not seeking a 2nd opinion and for not seriously questioning the first injury.....and his agent is even more guilty of allowing all this to happen. Dick. SMH.
 
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It’s outrageous they’re treating this like it’s no big deal. They can’t treat it like two concussions because they signed off the first one like he didn’t get one. I hope Tua is protecting himself and not letting the Dolphins call the shots here.
Wow. It sounds like Tua most definitely is NOT protecting himself and HE is letting the Dolphins call the shots rather than seeking a 2nd opinion from a neurologist who specializes in head injuries and concussions in particular. And that falls directly on his agent even moreso. The agent and Tua should not have trusted the Dolphins organization's choice of a so-called "independent specialist". The agent should have insisted on THEIR own independent medical opinion.

The neuroscientist is correct. Certainly one hopes Tua comes out of this unharmed and plays again at 100% but he should be taking significant time off now to make sure he's cleared and by cleared I mean seeking the opinion and care of a completely independent expert neurologist as above. This is insane, and yeah criminal if they are sweeping the 1st concussion under the rug and they should all be sued into the ground if this results in any kind of residual damage or even damage that requires him to spend more time away from the game than if he were treated correctly in a protocol after the first injury against the Bills. IF he misses any more time than he would have , the NFL, the Dolphins, the Dolphin medical team, and the "independent specialists" who the Dolphins say they referred him to after the Bills game , should all be considered negligent and sued for malpractice. I hope Roger Goodell and the NFL take a big hit over this.

I believe that these injuries are additive over time and if occuring too frequently without giving the brain a chance to recover adequately, it's like multiplying multiple injury damage several fold. So it's quite possible that the damage from the 2nd game is permanent now in terms of enhanced concussion susceptibility for future further damage.That's why they have the fucking concussion protocol in the first place, to prevent this sort of damage. How is this not surprising? The NFL does it again. And as far as the NFL penalizing the Dolphins? How about Congress holding the NFL accountable and penalizing them with an antitrust lawsuit and also putting them out of business. Crooks. Anything for more $$$$ for the NFL and to try to protect their image, as if they are doing all they can to make sure this kind of shit doesn't happen . What a joke. And for the Dolphins, anything to win. The player's agent is also hugely at fault here for not protecting his client. Another total jerkoff attorney who thinks his player's performance in the present in order to obtain a lucrative contract when he comes up for negotiation, is more important than the health and welfare of the player . I hope that jerkoff is banned from representing any player in any sport by the dumbass powers that be.

Corruption always happens at the highest levels and filters down to all the parasites who enable that bullshit to begin with. Eff them all.
 
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Wow. It sounds like Tua most definitely is NOT protecting himself and HE is letting the Dolphins call the shots rather than seeking a 2nd opinion from a neurologist who specializes in head injuries and concussions in particular. And that falls directly on his agent even moreso. The neuroscientist is correct. Certainly one hopes Tua comes out of this unharmed and plays again at 100% but he should be taking significant time off now to make sure he's cleared and by cleared I mean seeking the opinion and care of an independent expert neurologist as above. This is insane, and yeah criminal if they are sweeping the 1st concussion under the rug and they should all be sued into the ground if this results in any kind of residual damage or even damage that requires him to spend more time away from the game than if he were treated correctly in a protocol after the first injury against the Bills. IF he misses any more time than he would have , the NFL, the Dolphins, the Dolphin medical team, and the "independent specialists" who the Dolphins say they referred him to after the Bills game , should all be considered negligent and sued for malpractice. I hope Roger Goodell and the NFL take a big hit over this.

I believe that these injuries are additive over time and if occuring too frequently without giving the brain a chance to recover adequately, it's like multiplying multiple injury damage several fold.That's why they have the fucking concussion protocol in the first place. How is this not surprising? The NFL does it again. And as far as the NFL penalizing the Dolphins? How about Congress holding the NFL accountable and penalizing them with an antitrust lawsuit and also putting them out of business. Crooks. Anything for more $$$$ for the NFL and to try to protect their image, as if they are doing all they can to make sure this kind of shit doesn't happen . What a joke. And for the Dolphins, anything to win. The player's agent is also hugely at fault here for not protecting his client. Another total jerkoff attorney who thinks his player's performance in the present in order to obtain a lucrative contract when he comes up for negotiation, is more important than the health and welfare of the player . I hope that jerkoff is banned from representing any player in any sport by the dumbass powers that be.

Corruption always happens at the highest levels and filters down to all the parasites who enable that bullshit to begin with. Eff them all.
This is why I could care less if the NFL comes back. Clearly corrupt at the highest level in many different tentacled areas such as gambling and revenue over player safety and the fans experience. It took the Chuggers leaving to completely open my eyes to this. Don’t want them back nor any other team.
 

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I am surprised that Tua doesn’t have an advocate to assist with medical decisions. Clearly, he shouldn’t have played. The fact they moved him on a plan shortly after the injury is insane. It is highly suspect that they didn’t let the hospital do an mri on the spot.

My son slipped and fell in the bathroom. I immediately took him to the emergency room. Within two hours of being there x-rays and a mri were done. Luckily came back negative.

like I said. Mri should have been done before he left the hospital and took a plane back to Miami.
 

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Herbert get broken rib cartilage, plays with it after obviously being injuryed
...called .."heroic". Starts and plays entire next game. Probably plays entire game 4.
Performance "enhancing /allowability" Injections (cortisone) for ribs are okay, anabolic steroid for Tatis is "bad".

It's a money game. For both athletes like Herbert who want new contracts) and for the League (who wants high ratings and streaming sponsors happy). Fans calling for this guy to quit ain't playing his rent two years from now.

Peyton Manning won his second SB after major neck surgery. And a massive contract.
The player got rich, the League got great ratings. Fans were happy.

In the made up world of WWE, stars get serious injuries all the time. The company gives them some time off and incorporates the injury into the storyline. Tua...Herbert...all are part of the narrative for the
concerning, still betting big football fan.
 
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Say you know the future, and you tell your new NFL Draft Kings member fan,
very conscious of how a proper concussion diagnosis is done despite not finishing a second year at State College, that with his present bet, if Tua plays, he clears $1500.
See if they start with, "Well....it is a gameday decision, so I'm good."
 

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Does anyone still believe this NFL crap?

Tua and head controversy is due to the League being worried about more legal $$$ judgements,
not Tua ...just the costs. No controversy with Herbert playing a whole game after fractured rib cartilage. No weeks off. No League concern.

#Pain from a fractured rib can even impede your breathing, leading to a chest infection. In addition, since the rib cage protects some of your most vital organs in the chest and abdomen, a rib fracture can be associated with other injuries to internal organs and blood vessels.#
#Treatment of costal cartilage fractures is typically conservative, consisting of rest, ice, and nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medications. Athletes are usually restricted from a return to the sport until pain has significantly subsided, and the length of time required varies from 2 weeks to several months.#


You know why? Because it's been accepted QB get this injury and if they
Have a major negative result happen after playing with it.....it's a team problem.
There has been no legal case to the League for long range organ damage.
But CTE.....that's major dollars and that is the bottom line.

I don't wanna seen Tua get hurt, but folks cheer legally allowed UFC matches
whereby you can kick...with your leg....another man in the head and knock him out.
I'm going to assume if you paid for your pay per view ticket, you can just leave
your fan Doctor Whites smock on the table and cover the walnut from
your beer.
 
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I don't wanna seen Tua get hurt, but folks cheer legally allowed UFC matches
whereby you can kick...with your leg....another man in the head and knock him out.
Tony Gwynn Jr made the same argument and it struck me how barbaric he sounded. Then it gave me pause and I examined my own feelings about this. This notion is definitely true, and it goes back to the beginning of time I suppose.
 

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I am surprised that Tua doesn’t have an advocate to assist with medical decisions. Clearly, he shouldn’t have played. The fact they moved him on a plan shortly after the injury is insane. It is highly suspect that they didn’t let the hospital do an mri on the spot.

My son slipped and fell in the bathroom. I immediately took him to the emergency room. Within two hours of being there x-rays and a mri were done. Luckily came back negative.

like I said. Mri should have been done before he left the hospital and took a plane back to Miami.
That was one scary story about your son.

Hope he's back 100%.
 
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The Texans are brutal. At least this win will help keep the Deanos' draft position nicely mediocre.
 

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If the Deanos blow this... :roflmao:
HOU is probably the worst team in football. That the chugs gave up 24 points to them is a red flag if I've ever seen one. That D was so hyped and yet they look like they've had defensive woes in all the game they've played so far.
 
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Melvin Gordon might be wearing Denver's uniform, but he's still a Deano through and through.
 
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NFL sucks today. Brady throws a pass into the endzone too high to catch, receiver goes up, and KC defender contacts him when ball is about one foot above his head....clean solid play. Refs of course call "defenseless receiver penalty" for Brady.
Absolutely garbage. It's grand theater, not football.
 
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NFL sucks today. Brady throws a pass into the endzone too high to catch, receiver goes up, and KC defender contacts him when ball is about one foot above his head....clean solid play. Refs of course call "defenseless receiver penalty" for Brady.
Absolutely garbage. It's grand theater, not football.
typical NFL BS.....they have their agenda for revenue and also they also have their agenda to make the bookies happy. What a joke. I hope that Tua thing blows up in their face and Congress gets involved.
 

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As a former NFL fan, I have to say this.
Brady looks old.
I have to agree with his spouse on this one, he should just wrap it up,
study yacht repair in Florida, and say the rumors of him being the
next HC of the LA Chuggers is not true. Dolphins? No comment.
 
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